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    Default How To Install Without Adware?

    Everyone says you can opt out of the ad-ware installation, but I don't see how. When you run the installer, if neither the box for SearchBar or SaveNow is checked, it will now allow you to install.

    Is there any way to install it without letting EITHER SearchBar or SaveNow to be installed? The installer forces you to choose one or the other to install.

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    Just disable Daemon Tools Search Bar checkbox in installation dialog and no adware will be installed.
    It is still possible to avoid installation of Search Bar and SaveNow by cancelling related EULAs (i.e. disable the "I know this download comes with ..."-checkboxes at bottom of those EULAs), or - if you want to check out the Search Bar alone without SaveNow - just accept Search Bar EULA and cancel SaveNow EULA.
    And even if the adware is installed, you can remove it via control panel -> software add/remove.
    We also have an own forum for everything about the adware, so I moved your thread here; due to the explanations above, your other thread is obsolete.
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    The installer definately infers that you must install one or the other. Maybe we're talking about different things, but I'm talking about the window that starts with "Daemon tools is not freeware. Supported by yada yada yada". It has a checkbox. If you un-check the box for the SearchBar and click next, then un-check the box for SaveNow, the "Install" button becomes greyed out. I figured out that daemon was already running, and just closed the window... but to the average user, they would think daemon had not yet been installed.

    Uninstall MIGHT work to get rid of SaveNow, but it certainly will not get rid of the dozen other programs it loads on your system. We could debate the truthiness of WhenU's PR claims, but for those who don't know how to avoid the ad-ware if they don't want it my solution certainly is not obsolete until someone fixes the installer to allow a proper opt-out.

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    Gosh, what you are talking about is the actual adware installation - of course the install button will be greyed out if you disable both Search Bar and SaveNow installation - there is nothing to install anymore, thus cancel is the only available option to go from there (besides going back of course). Therefore no adware will be installed if you cancel here either. Daemon Tools installation is already finished before you get the adware installer messages.
    What I am talking about is the Daemon Tools installation dialog (see picture) - if you disable the Daemon Tools Search Bar checkbox no adware will be installed:

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    OIC, I used the default install at that point and didn't select custom. Whomever is in charge of the installers should make an extra checkbox in the SearchBar installer, that does not install anything but still allows you to click "Install". Either that or just a note on that page that says "Click Cancel to install just Dameon Tools" (since it's already installed).

    I think only 5% of users would be smart enough to click Custom at the start to disable ad-ware. The other 95% would get frustrated for awhile at the SearchBar installer, and then either install one or the other, or just shut down the computer and realize it's installed. A clear way out at that point in the user interface would be helpful; I saw at least two other posts on this board that were describing the exact same bug, but could not convey the nature of the problem.

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    There is no need to change the installer type to custom, it'll be changed automatically if the Search Bar checkbox is disabled.
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    Holy crap!

    It's unchecking ONE SINGLE BOX!

    How you people can even manage to use emulation software is a miracle in itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoqenishy
    Holy crap!

    It's unchecking ONE SINGLE BOX!

    How you people can even manage to use emulation software is a miracle in itself
    I decided to rerun the installer just for giggles. There is an uncheck box at the beginning, but the options APPEARS legitimate. There is no indication it is ad-ware at this point. In fact it appears to be a plugin that enhances the features, not software that is patently ad-ware.

    The first mention of WhenU (an automatic red flag) is in the spyware installer. At this point there is no clean way to opt out.

    The whole design plays off the deception, not ignorance of users. Many packages include adware but label it as such and give an easy way out. It's similar to how Real used to hide the free version of RealPlayer. If you went to their site, you have to scroll and hunt for the link, dodging the paid version at least three times. This installer employs a similar tactic to achieve an end result; get paid installs no matter what.

    Does it make you feel smart belittling other people? I've seen your same post several other times.

    FYI, I've been converting and burning images since the first version of Toast. How long have you been around, again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billybwilde
    I decided to rerun the installer just for giggles. There is an uncheck box at the beginning, but the options APPEARS legitimate. There is no indication it is ad-ware at this point. In fact it appears to be a plugin that enhances the features, not software that is patently ad-ware.

    The first mention of WhenU (an automatic red flag) is in the spyware installer. At this point there is no clean way to opt out.

    The whole design plays off the deception, not ignorance of users. Many packages include adware but label it as such and give an easy way out. It's similar to how Real used to hide the free version of RealPlayer. If you went to their site, you have to scroll and hunt for the link, dodging the paid version at least three times. This installer employs a similar tactic to achieve an end result; get paid installs no matter what.

    Does it make you feel smart belittling other people? I've seen your same post several other times.

    FYI, I've been converting and burning images since the first version of Toast. How long have you been around, again?
    A part from the download section:
    In order to support FREE distribution of DAEMON Tools we highly encourage you at least to try out this optional software! (you can remove it anytime later when you wish: via Control Panel-> Add/Remove Programs)
    The first step must be ALWAYS to read the description. ALWAYS. Then you can install it. There IS a way to opt out the "spyware" installer. SIMPLY UNCHECK THE BOX!
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybwilde
    The first mention of WhenU (an automatic red flag) is in the spyware installer. At this point there is no clean way to opt out.
    The huge "Cancel"-button at bottom right is not enough to "opt out"!?
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