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tiptop

"installed the badware too when it was first included in the software. Why? I trusted the software developers since all the other versions were clean before."
THIS.
Way to go guys, you tricked me. Boy is my face red. Oh well i guess i needed a reminder that there is absolutely no one in the world that can be trusted.
Next time just put some big red letters on the first page of the installation or something. Just so people who are re-installing (and think they have already read the EULA) know something changed.
Thank god for good software firewalls and oldversion.com.
Oh, PROTIP: Put a donate button on your webpage, it works better than conning people.

Copytrooper

It is clearly noted since v4.00 on the download page; seriously can not be such a big problem to uncheck on simple checkbox in installation dialog, to cancel WhenU EULA, or to un-install the adware in case you don't want to use it.
And if you really want to support development of Daemon Tools you're always welcome to buy a license:
http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/dt_register.php

Jito463

Daemon Tools has been the most upfront of virtually any software developer about the included adware. They clearly stated it in the announcements prior to release, they created this subforum strictly for people to post about any problems with it, and it's clearly stated on the download page.

Not to mention that you can easily deselect it during installation (as Copytrooper said). And even if you forget, just cancel the installer when it runs. And if you even click OK to that, just go to Add/Remove programs to uninstall it.

BertieWoo

Why is it that you have to opt-out and not opt-in? I think this kind of behaviour irritates most people and makes them feel they are being cheated, whether it's true or not. By googling " 'Daemon tools' +adware" you can see what I mean. Surely this kind of publicity is not good for Daemon-tools - even if all people who complain are wrong?

Kitna

Daemon Tools gets revenue from adware and registered users. In what way do they benefit by changing it from opt-out to opt-in?
The easiest way to avoid the adware is to buy Daemon Tools Pro. No ads there.

Hanschke

and to read the text inside the setup and not only click on the "ok" button

but the best way is to buy and support!

SomuchFun

I read the information about the ad-ware included figured I like it enough to support (don't use IE anyways). So I installed it and didn't care but now their search bar keeps attempting to install itself over itself. I have disallowed it several times and even let it go a few more and even removed Daemon Tools from my computer and it continues to re-install itself. This is annoying and I am pretty sure I didn't agree to it continually installing itself.

Alco

@SomuchFun:

please clarify the name of the "search bar" which "keeps installing" ?

danny_kay1710

I agree I think it would be better if it was opt-in instead of opt-out but only because many users assume it is safe to click next..next...next..finish to install it then get irritated when they find that it has installed adware.

Maybe even a warning dialog saying are you sure when you have the adware detected?? This might alert people or get them to read and understand what they are doing.

I understand that changing it from opt-out to opt-in will lose you revenue as in ad money but it would stop all the unhappy customers - asking people to pay money for a software which they believe tricked them into installing adware (regardless of whether that was what was intended by the developers) to get rid of having adware is kind of stupid when you think about it.

And like I have said many times i dont blame or criticise daemon tools for adding the adware but like i have said most people including the more technological minded will skip through an installation wizard as quickly as they can ignoring the "select features" screen.

Alco

well there is always a "User Disclosure screen" and of course always has to accept a corresponding EULA as well.