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F-X-
28.07.2006, 09:37
Hi,

I installed latest DT 4.03 and had BSOD after hibernate (X32 and X64-bit), the system is fresh, with latest drivers of all components.

I tracked down the problem and it seems DT 4.03 cant handle my dual core CPU X2 3800+(???). I got DT 4.03 running perfectly on my second machine, which is an A64 3000 single core. no problems with hibernate there.

I deactivated the SPTD part via regestry, and hibernate works again!

if you need a minidump (100kb) give me your email address, and I send it to you.

Copytrooper
28.07.2006, 11:55
Please send the dump unpacked (i.e. not ZIP'ed nor RAR'ed etc.) to support@daemon-tools.cc with reference to this thread.

F-X-
28.07.2006, 15:41
I send it to you, unpacked of course ;)

Copytrooper
28.07.2006, 16:27
Do you use newest SPTD layer (v1.25)?

F-X-
28.07.2006, 20:21
yes! the 1.25 from the newest release.

F-X-
31.07.2006, 00:05
any news yet?

Development
01.08.2006, 17:46
Problem is under investigation.

F-X-
17.08.2006, 00:06
me again :)

do you found something? pls. tell me that you can reproduce it.

arisma
17.08.2006, 11:46
http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/showthread.php?p=65914
Try uninstalling the optimizer too.




*change optimizier to optimizer.

F-X-
26.08.2006, 03:48
http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/showthread.php?p=65914
Try uninstalling the optimizer too.




*change optimizier to optimizer.

maybe it helps: hadn`t installed the dualcore optimizer.

but its "nice" it can be reproduced. i also recogn. some other strange system hangs too. seems daemon tools (SPTD?) related also... what it was? freezing on starting the machine. when win is started and the desktop appears it freezes! not often, but every 10-50 startup of windows. ok.. why i think its daemon tools related? i started this thread with a fresh installed (true image, makes things easier ;) ) backup of winxp. without daemon tools installed till now... the freezing problem is also gone. maybe i'am wrong, but it should be investigated too. thx for the nice support :)

JohnO
02.10.2006, 21:47
Any news on this? There's a new version of Daemon Tools out but this problem still remains. Is it already clear what causes this problem (except the fact that it affects systems with dual core processors)?

edit by admin: The forums are moderated which is why your posts don't show up immediately. Please don't post your messages more than once.

Copytrooper
03.10.2006, 16:02
Anyone tried with v4.06/SPTD v1.29 yet?

JohnO
03.10.2006, 16:39
Yes, is suffers from the same problem.

JohnO
19.11.2006, 20:40
Can anyone tell me the status of this problem? It seems there isn't any solution yet.

Blazkowicz
21.11.2006, 09:46
Did you tried Daemon Tools 4.08 and SPTD 1.38?

SPTD 1.38 is included in Alcohol.

Development
24.11.2006, 19:09
What is your exact MB specification?

We cannot reproduce hibernate crash on X2 even with optimizer. This seems to be your configuration specific.
The more info you provide the better.

boulonais
01.01.2007, 07:42
Hi,

I have the same problem :
Asus A8N-SLI
1Go RAM
2*250 Go (RAID0) for system drives
Windows XP SP2 French
Lastest NForce et Forceware driver
Lastest AMD Driver but I don't install optimizer

Even with the good options, Windows don't generate any dump file. I have a stop 0X0000001D with a IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.

JohnO
23.02.2007, 09:28
After reinstalling my pc for a couple of times I am still suffering from te same problem. Driver irq not less or equal on hibernate after installing Daemon tools. Tried different (including latest) versions op sptd.

The stop error is I have a stop 0X0000001D

I have the ms dual core patch, amd dual core patch, processor driver and mb drivers installed. Without these i get the same result.

Motherboard: DFI Nforce4 Ultra-D, 2 GB RAM, 2x 250 (Raid 0), WINXP SP2 english all patches installed.


Hi,
I have the same problem :
Asus A8N-SLI
1Go RAM
2*250 Go (RAID0) for system drives
Windows XP SP2 French
Lastest NForce et Forceware driver
Lastest AMD Driver but I don't install optimizer
Even with the good options, Windows don't generate any dump file. I have a stop 0X0000001D with a IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.

AleFranz
23.02.2007, 14:11
Same problem!

Abit KN9 Ultra
3800+ (64 X2)

15break
23.02.2007, 19:39
Odd, I have a gigabyte m61pm-s2 with an amd x2 3800+, amd and ms dual-core optimizer, and have absolutely no problems running daemon-tools 4.08

JohnO
23.02.2007, 22:50
Odd, I have a gigabyte m61pm-s2 with an amd x2 3800+, amd and ms dual-core optimizer, and have absolutely no problems running daemon-tools 4.08

Did u try hibernating? Cause thats when the problem becomes evident. Besided the fact that Daemon tools kills the hibernation with a BSOD it will run fine.

15break
25.02.2007, 19:19
Did u try hibernating? Cause thats when the problem becomes evident. Besided the fact that Daemon tools kills the hibernation with a BSOD it will run fine.

Sorry, forgot to mention about that. Yes, i've been using hibernation exclusively since I got this comp. On a side note on a little more info on my specs, I have 1gb of supertalent, 1 sata maxtor, windows xp 32-bit sp2, and all the latest drivers for everything.

Some things I do not have installed are any sort of burn program, like easy cd creator, nero, or any other major burn app.

Thels
26.02.2007, 22:15
I have the same try that I get a "0X0000001D with a IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" BSOD whenever I try to enter hybernate mode. I know now it's related to Daemon Tools, as I tried reпnstalling with several configurations and everything works fine, until I install Daemon Tools. Note that uninstalling Daemon Tools doesn't fix the problem. Once I have it, I have it.

I'm running Windows 2K on a P5ND2-SLI system with Intel P4 3Ghz processor, 2 gigs of memory and Dual GeForce 7800 GT in SLI mode. There is an ASUS DRW-1604P DVD Rewriter as primary on my 2nd IDE port and 2 identical harddisks combined into an Nvidia Stripe disk on my NVIDIA nForce4 Intel@ Edition Serial ATA RAID Controller. Everything else is on board.

15break
27.02.2007, 21:52
Would it be possible for having a RAID setup be a factor in any of this? I have no idea if or why it would but that seems to be the only significant difference in the specs of everyone's system compared to mine.

Dave_M_26
01.03.2007, 18:54
I have the same problem, and can confirm that I have an Nvidia Nforce4 board (Gigabyte GA-K8N Pro-SLI) with a RAID 0 setup.

For Thels: you need to manually delete sptd.sys from the windows/system32 folder in order to be able to hibernate again. The DTools uninstall doesn't remove it.

Dave

pinaz
02.03.2007, 21:02
Hi guys,

i've got the same problem with daemon & hibernation too. So I searched throught diffrent threads and its seems to me that the problem with hibernation is connected to nforce4 & (maybe raid) & daemon & (maybe alcohol).

My system was running fin with alcohol 120% but since I installed daemon tools I get this f*** IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL error when i'm going in hibernation :(

Trying: msinfo32
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-konformes System
IRQ 9 SCSI/RAID Host Controller <-- Daemon!!!



To get rid of this problem we should compare out systemconfig!

Asus A8N-E Ultra (nforce 4, raid 0 installed)
AMD64 - 3000+
2x Cosair 1024 TwinX
Windows XP, Alcohol 120%, Daemon Tools

Dave_M_26
03.03.2007, 19:11
OK I've done a bit of experimenting. Basically it eventually boiled down to copying my existing RAIDed C: drive onto a single PATA drive, booting from that and reinstalling Daemon. There didn't seem to be any trouble hibernating with this setup. This setup still included the nForce SATA RAID driver (I could still see the original C: drive) so I'm not sure exactly where the conflict lies. Unfortunately I don't have a spare single SATA drive to perform the experiment with, so I can't see if there's an issue with the system drive being on the SATA controller, or whether it only occurs when the system drive is on the RAID array.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that when the OS stores the hibernation file it uses the RAID driver in a funny way which conflicts with sptd.sys. Unfortunately it's not possible to put hiberfil.sys on a different drive in order to get round this.

Hopefully this will give someone who knows more about the internal workings of the drivers something to go on in order to fix this problem.

Dave

Copytrooper
15.03.2007, 14:13
Could you please post the entire BSOD message, maybe it gives a clue.

Dave_M_26
31.03.2007, 10:17
Could you please post the entire BSOD message, maybe it gives a clue.
OK, I've finally got round to reinstalling Daemon to do this...
The error is:
DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Technical Information:
Stop: 0x000000D1 (0x00000000,0x000000FF,0x00000008,0x00000000)
I tried it a couple of times to see if any of the parameters changed, but they didn't.
Hope this helps
Dave

Jito463
31.03.2007, 13:03
Did it reference a specific .dll or .sys file?

Dave_M_26
01.04.2007, 19:17
Did it reference a specific .dll or .sys file?
No sorry. The rest of it was just the standard "If this is the first time you have seen this message blah blah blah" there weren't any references to any specific files. There's nothing in the system log either (despite being set to write an event there after a crash), although I guess that's not so surprising if there may be an issue with disk writes anyway.
Dave

Jito463
02.04.2007, 05:31
Check your Windows\minidump directory for the latest minidump file (they're named by creation date). If one exists, you could send it to support@daemon-tools.cc to have them analyze it for you. That may lead to a more definitive source of the problem.

Dave_M_26
02.04.2007, 08:05
Unfortunately (probably due to the issue with writing to disks) the minidump has not been created. However, I see that I can change where the minidump is saved, so I'll attach a PATA drive tonight and try again.

Dave

Dave_M_26
02.04.2007, 23:13
Hmmm...

I've now discovered that the minidump is initially created within the pagefile on the C: drive and is only copied to the minidump folder on the next boot. Handy!

I'll have to look into sending the debug info through the serial port. I've no idea what's needed for that, but I'll look into it. If anyone's got any other ideas, I'm open to suggestion.

Dave

Copytrooper
05.04.2007, 18:58
Anyone of you with hibernation issue did try SPTD layer v1.43 yet?
Also did you try with SPTD installed only, i.e. without Daemon Tools and/or Alcohol installed, but SPTD running?

P.A.W
18.04.2007, 21:41
I was running on a fresh install of windows xp sp 2 with a single core processor and was having the stop error while hibernating issue:

Driver_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
Stop: 0x000000d1 (0x00000000, 0x000000FF, 0x00000008, 0x00000000)

the problem was resolved the very instant i uninstalled sptd layer 1.43.

strategy_fan
27.04.2007, 00:01
I just clean formatted my system, here are the specs:

Athlon 64 3000+
DFI LanParty UT NF3 250gb
4 SATA Hard drives
3 PATA Optical drives

The following software is installed:

Windows XP Professional x64 Edition with Service Pack 2
NVIDIA official nForce3 RAID drivers v6.25
NVIDIA official nForce3 Ethernet drivers v6.25
Realtek AC'97 Drivers version A3.99

I then proceeded to install Daemon tools. After the first part of the installation, after the computer had restarted, I tested to see if hibernate worked. It did not work. It caused a BSOD as described by the above poster. Daemon tools was not installed at this point, only the SPTD layer. I hope this helps.

Copytrooper
08.05.2007, 19:20
Anyone tried v1.45 yet?

Klueless
09.05.2007, 14:27
I have the same problem with DAEMON Tools (4.09 x86, STPD 1.43). I have not tried with STPD 1.45. Why would you suggest 1.45? It's not listed for download by Duplex Secure (http://www.duplexsecure.com/downloads).

I'm running X2 4400+, A8N32-SLI, RAID 0 over SATA, and 7900 GS with Windows XP SP2.

What else would you need to debug this problem?

Copytrooper
09.05.2007, 16:28
SPTD v1.45 fixes some strange bug causing issues with quite some programs including Nero, EAC, WinAmp etc., so it is highly recommended to update to v1.45. Maybe it fixes the hibernation issue for some of you guys with problems, too.

strategy_fan
19.05.2007, 18:33
SPTD v1.45 fixes some strange bug causing issues with quite some programs including Nero, EAC, WinAmp etc., so it is highly recommended to update to v1.45. Maybe it fixes the hibernation issue for some of you guys with problems, too.Nope, same problem still occurs.

Mykos
25.05.2007, 14:46
Hi there,

I have the same problem. After installing DT (doesn't matter sptd 1.43 or sptd 1.45) i get bsod.

Copytrooper
02.06.2007, 20:24
Anyone tried SPTD layer v1.47 yet?

Mykos
02.06.2007, 23:23
works with NV4 Raid. THX!!

tentonine
05.06.2007, 12:14
1.47 works with nforce4 RAID for me too. I have had this problem with a single core Athlon 64 for some time. I hadn't even thought that it could be due to Daemon tools until I checked the home page recently and read the change log.

Thels
06.06.2007, 20:22
I have the same try that I get a "0X0000001D with a IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" BSOD whenever I try to enter hybernate mode. I know now it's related to Daemon Tools, as I tried reпnstalling with several configurations and everything works fine, until I install Daemon Tools. Note that uninstalling Daemon Tools doesn't fix the problem. Once I have it, I have it.
I'm running Windows 2K on a P5ND2-SLI system with Intel P4 3Ghz processor, 2 gigs of memory and Dual GeForce 7800 GT in SLI mode. There is an ASUS DRW-1604P DVD Rewriter as primary on my 2nd IDE port and 2 identical harddisks combined into an Nvidia Stripe disk on my NVIDIA nForce4 Intel@ Edition Serial ATA RAID Controller. Everything else is on board.

1.47 fixed my problem :) cheers!