Very Resilient Starforce Protection

[Su-27FlankerB]

I have had Lock On Flaming Cliffs for quite some time but I have not played with this game because of its resilient copy protection.

According to A-ray it uses Starforce 3.7.16.01

[12:18:22 PM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\AsyncNet.dll
[12:18:25 PM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\LockOn.exe
[12:18:27 PM] StarForce 3.7.16.01 detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\protect.dll
[12:18:28 PM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\su39.dll
[12:18:29 PM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\View.dll
[12:18:29 PM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\World.dll
[12:18:29 PM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\WorldGeneral.dll

According to Protection ID:
[I] Init cd/dvd sector scan for Drive I
[!] Disc Protection: Starforce Keyless
... Possible Key : 6ZW3VYA4GSJVT4CXSKF97Q7Y

I have tried to create an image using a trial version of DAEMON Tools Pro Advance 4.35.0308.0131
The image creation seemed successful using the following equipment:

LG GCC-4521B (an internal drive connected via USB-IDE bridge)
This setup provides a convenient way of removing a drive when using Starforce games.

I have used the vIDE of DAEMON Tools yet the program still fails to run.

Note that the same drive was successful in creating images for Death to Spies & UAZ Racing 4x4 both protected by higher versions of Starforce. Both programs ran fine.

Also note that I used the MDX file format to create the image.

Thanks.

I have uploaded a screenshot of the message generated.

[Niko76]

Try to recreate image file using mds/mdf format, StarForce profile and High DPM Extraction Method at 4x speed.

[Terramex]

There shouldn't be any disadvantage in using mdx or in choosing normal DPM precision.

@Su-27FlankerB
Is it a CD or DVD ?

[Terramex]

@Su-27FlankerB
Also, which national version are you running and which patch did you install ?
e.g. the english version of Flaming Cliffs 1.1 is SF 3.4.77, 1.11 is 3.6.10.6, 1.12a/b is 3.7.19.4.
Russian 1.11 is 3.6.10.6, 1.12 is 3.7.14.2

P.S.: of course all version should work with no real drive attached

[Su-27FlankerB]

Very Resilient Starforce Protection

@Terramex

It's only in CD.

My version is UK/EU using 3.7.16.01

"...which patch did you install?"
I'll try this one yet

Thanks everyone I'll keep you posted.

[Su-27FlankerB]

Very Resilient Starforce Protection

I patched the program to 1.12B & now A-Ray Scanner gives out this version of Starforce.

Starforce 3.7.19.04

[11:09:24 AM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\AsyncNet.dll
[11:09:26 AM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\LockOn.exe
[11:09:28 AM] StarForce 3.7.19.04 detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\protect.dll
[11:09:32 AM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\su39.dll
[11:09:32 AM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\View.dll
[11:09:32 AM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\World.dll
[11:09:32 AM] StarForce detected -> C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\Lock On - Flaming Cliffs\WorldGeneral.dll
[11:09:32 AM] --- File(s) Scan Finished [7.38s] ---

Is it possible that the image created was not good enough?

Thanks. everyone.

[Su-27FlankerB]

Very Resilient Starforce Protection

I have a new Pioneer DVD-Rewriter. I might as well try using this to create a new image. DVR-A18L.

[Terramex]

I have a new Pioneer DVD-Rewriter. I might as well try using this to create a new image. DVR-A18L.

Yes, retry with your new drive with the lowest DPM speed possible.

If that doesn't work as well you can try the attached MDS files, but i don't know if they're corresponding to your SF key/UK version - just try, and don't forget to adjust the filename
They can't be used with DT Pro images so you need to create a new image with Alcohol - according to your older threads you use it too.

Additional notes:
- uninstall all other virtual SCSI drives created by other apps
- delete all former HardwareProfile subkeys under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Eagle Dynamics\LockOn 1.1 Flaming Cliffs CD\Keys

[Blazkowicz]

Terramex, there is no need to uninstall any drives when getting "insert licensed disc".
This clearly states (as you already said) bad image.

[Terramex]

Terramex, there is no need to uninstall any drives when getting "insert licensed disc".

Afair the check might take longer with other SCSI drives present. Correct me if i'm wrong
Haven't dealed with SF for a very long time.

[Su-27FlankerB]

Very Resilient Starforce Protection

Yes, retry with your new drive with the lowest DPM speed possible.

If that doesn't work as well you can try the attached MDS files, but i don't know if they're corresponding to your SF key/UK version - just try, and don't forget to adjust the filename
They can't be used with DT Pro images so you need to create a new image with Alcohol - according to your older threads you use it too.

Additional notes:
- uninstall all other virtual SCSI drives created by other apps
- delete all former HardwareProfile subkeys under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Eagle Dynamics\LockOn 1.1 Flaming Cliffs CD\Keys

I'll give this one a try.

[Su-27FlankerB]

Very Resilient Starforce Protection

Terramex, there is no need to uninstall any drives when getting "insert licensed disc".
This clearly states (as you already said) bad image.

What baffles me the most is that how come this drive LG GCC-4521B (attached via IDE-USB bridge) makes a good image of my other Starforce protected games (i.e. UAZ 4x4 & Death to Spies) considering that the two are more recent and use much later versions of Starforce.

My Pioneer drive performed much worse when I tested it to create an MDX image of UAZ 4x4.

[Blazkowicz]

Terramex i haven't seen a time increasing.
Su-27Flanker, old SF3 required a better DPM quality than newer ones.

[Terramex]

My Pioneer drive performed much worse when I tested it to create an MDX image of UAZ 4x4.

But maybe it performs better with Flaming Cliffs - which in contrast to the other two is a CD title.

btw. my LG drive also performs much better with DVDs than with CDs

[wuwenyao]

Yes, retry with your new drive with the lowest DPM speed possible.

If that doesn't work as well you can try the attached MDS files, but i don't know if they're corresponding to your SF key/UK version - just try, and don't forget to adjust the filename
They can't be used with DT Pro images so you need to create a new image with Alcohol - according to your older threads you use it too.

Additional notes:
- uninstall all other virtual SCSI drives created by other apps
- delete all former HardwareProfile subkeys under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Eagle Dynamics\LockOn 1.1 Flaming Cliffs CD\Keys

thanks Terramex,I have the same problem,can you give me some advice to burn the mdx to a CD? and would you tell me how grab the SF information from the protect CD.