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Zeolites
12.09.2010, 22:55
What game profile do I use for Shogo: MAD when I create an image of the CD?. I have an updated disc using the latest version-2.2.

I have a No-CD for the game but without the CD I can't hear the in-game music which adds to the atmosphere.

Blazkowicz
12.09.2010, 23:40
Scan the game folder with Protection ID and then you will know.

Zeolites
13.09.2010, 00:13
Okay, thank you. I'll be getting DT Standard tomorrow.

Terramex
13.09.2010, 11:27
It's a looong time ago, but if iirc (and if there are no other versions using a different copy protection) the game has a simple disc check. So it should work mounting a plain ISO in DAEMON Tools lite - no special settings/profile needed.

Zeolites
14.09.2010, 00:16
I purchased DT Pro Standard today, can you give me a safe link to Protection ID please?.

When I create an image of the game should I just use ISO output?.

Terramex
14.09.2010, 00:29
Generally it's recommended to use DAEMON Tools' proprietary formats mds or mdx.
But iirc even a plain ISO should work with Shogo.

Protection iD link: Protection ID (http://protectionid.owns.it/)

Zeolites
14.09.2010, 00:54
Thanks for the link. What's the difference between MDX and MDS exactly?. Why would I use one over the other?. BTW, I read and printed out the Glossary.

Terramex
14.09.2010, 01:07
What's the difference between MDX and MDS exactly?
MDX format is aimed to make it easier to store disc images. It's more convenient to have one MDX image instead of two MDS and MDF files.
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Zeolites
14.09.2010, 01:58
Thanks for clearing that up. ProtectionID is completely safe right?, it doesn't steal CD keys/Serials or anything?.

evlncrn8
14.09.2010, 18:19
totally safe, im one of the developers, so you can trust me :)
it only goes online when you tell it to update.. there's no other traffic.. it just scans a file / folder / cd / dvd and reports the protection found (if any), which then allows you to figure out which image format / setting to use..

Zeolites
15.09.2010, 01:38
Okay, thank you. Protection can mostly be found in the main program executable right?.

Zeolites
15.09.2010, 05:55
I'm about to create an image of Shogo. Protection ID turned up nothing, so do I just use the "Data Disc" profile?.

Should I set the DVD-RW drive to a lower read speed than maximum?.

Zeolites
15.09.2010, 08:08
I created the image okay, my drive maximum drive read speed is 40x, I used 16x to create the image. The MDX image was created successfully.

I mounted the image using [SCSI_0] (E:), it launched the setup.exe for Shogo. I installed the game to "C:\Games\Shogo", then restarted the system. I opened the Shogo shortcut and launched the game. A message pops up saying I don't have the Shogo CD in the drive. Was I suppose to install to E: instead of C:?.

I notice that virtual drive E: contains no media. Do I have to re-mount the image?, won't that launch the setup.exe again?.

Take it easy on me, this is the first time doing this.

FordPrefect
15.09.2010, 08:30
Yes, you have to remount.
You may want to enable Automount, then the image is automatically mounted if you restart your system.

http://daemonpro-help.com/en/general_use/preferences.html
(http://daemonpro-help.com/en/general_use/preferences.html)

Zeolites
15.09.2010, 10:16
Yep, had to re-mount, I tried it after-wards. The game works fine but I don't hear the in-game music. As I mentioned before, I used the Data Disc profile. The whole reason I wanted to mount Shogo with DT Pro Standard, was to be able to hear the level music without the CD. Shouldn't I have used Mixed Mode CD instead since it contains audio and data?.

Should I unmount a drive before restarting or shutting down the computer?. What about when I install other programs, should I unmount all drives and exit DT Pro Agent?. I always make sure to close all programs and user processes prior to installing things.

Should I have had RMPS in Preferences\Advanced since I used an MDX image?. Should I be concerned that I didn't have it enabled while creating the image?.

The next game I'll be creating an image for is Quake 2. The game doesn't need the CD to run, but you need it if you want to hear the in-game music.

My very first attempt at burning an image to CD (SHOGO.mdx) and it failed on me. I'm hesitant to try again, I don't want to waste my CD-Rs. I didn't have anything else running in the background.

When I want to uninstall a program, should I make sure to have the image for the program unmounted?. Will it cause problems if I don't?.

Zeolites
15.09.2010, 11:11
Instead of Image Burn, I think I'll try out ImgBurn instead. Much much more options!. The Official ImgBurn Website (http://www.imgburn.com/)

Terramex
15.09.2010, 12:34
@Zeolites
Sorry :redface:, i haven't searched the web before but there is an easy solution.
Just replace the AM18.dll in your install dir with the attached one.

Zeolites
15.09.2010, 13:11
The file did the trick!, thanks man!!.

Terramex
15.09.2010, 15:41
You're welcome :)

For the sake of completeness & for future purpose:

Should I unmount a drive before restarting or shutting down the computer?Not needed - but i do it ;)

What about when I install other programs, should I unmount all drives and exit DT Pro Agent?In some rare cases apps/games protected by SecuROM make a disc check already during installation, and with another (virtual or physical) disc present that check might fail.

Should I have had RMPS in Preferences\Advanced since I used an MDX image?. Should I be concerned that I didn't have it enabled while creating the image?No, RMPS emulation is only needed for physical RMPS copies burned with Alcohol 120%.

When I want to uninstall a program, should I make sure to have the image for the program unmounted?No, in rare cases it's even needed to have the disc inserted to be able to uninstall.

Zeolites
16.09.2010, 01:19
I really appreciate you clearing those things up!, support here is excellent!.

I have a question about Half-Life, will I have a problem playing online with it mounted with DT?. I haven't played HL/CS since Steam came out.

Zeolites
16.09.2010, 09:16
I successfully wrote the SHOGO.mdx file to a CD-R using ImgBurn. I thought it would just copy the image to the disc as is, but it doesn't. It extracts the contents of the image and burns it like an original. So I can use this CD on another computer without DT and not need the CD after-wards?.

Terramex
16.09.2010, 11:30
I wasn't aware that ImgBurn is capable of burning MDX images.
If the burning was ok that CD can be used on another PC without DT.

If you want to burn an image to a CD as is open the DT Pro Image Editor.
At the lower left choose ISO9660 + Joilet as File system and your burner as Target device.

Creating new image | DAEMON Pro Help (http://www.daemonpro-help.com/en/general_use/image_editor/creating_new_image.html)

Zeolites
16.09.2010, 11:49
I wasn't aware that ImgBurn is capable of burning MDX images.

When you select the source file, select "all files" instead of the default-"all supported files". Then open the MDX image. It worked fine, I ran a test first before burning. Then burned the disc with verify selected.


If you want to burn an image to a CD as is open the DT Pro Image Editor.
At the lower left choose ISO9660 + Joilet as File system and your burner as Target device.

Thanks for the tip.