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al1uk
10.11.2005, 19:49
Currently I've got a Geforce XFX 5200, really rubbish, and using 3d mark, I get results of around 265, with overclocking. My budget is around Ј150 (UK sterling). Some of you might think that too low, but as a university student, I need to survive the outragous university fees.:rolleyes:
I've never been that interested in gaming, but with upcoming releases, I'm gonna need something new, and my Graphics card is the only outdated peice of hardware. Anyway, I ain't to clever with buying hardware, just look at my RAM post, and you'll understand.:wink: I need recommendations for cards that will survive a long time.

Methadon
10.11.2005, 20:00
Do you have PCI-E or AGP?
And what do you prefer, ATI or nVIDIA?

NetSoerfer
10.11.2005, 20:04
I'd probably go for a GeForce 6600 or 6800 with 128MB, depending on your budget. At http://www.misco.co.uk you can get those from BFG, slightly overclocked (yet with full warranty).

BFG GeForce 6800 OC 128MB DDR TV-Out Dual DVI: £160
BFG GeForce 6600GT OC 128MB DDR TV-Out Dual DVI: £134

The GF6800 is definitely faster than a Radeon 9800Pro (which they also have in stock for a higher price). It's not the fastest card out there anymore, but for ~£150 it's pretty good.

Those are for AGP which I assume will be what you need. I don't really know about ATi cards in that price range... It'd probably be an X700, but I don't know how good that one is.

RTsa
10.11.2005, 20:06
Well, I'd recommend a GeForce 6600GT with 256Mb memory. That's what I have, it's not too expensive, though it won't be able to run everything at full from now on. (games like B&W2 and F.E.A.R. don't run at full, but they're damn pretty with what I can get..oh, and I haven't overclocked, so I might get more out of it)

Though, the new ATI series looks interesting. I think you'd be able to afford the cheap ones.

al1uk
11.11.2005, 11:10
I've AGP 8x, and PCI slots, but I'm not sure if they are PCI Express ones. No real preferance, it has to be good and within my budget. I've been doing my own looking, what do you lot think about some of the cards on this site: http://www.itcomputer.co.uk/category.php?CAT_ID=5&SCAT_ID=193&offset=0

NetSoerfer
11.11.2005, 11:50
Definitely no PCIe (PCI Express, actually you'd need PEG - PCI Express for Graphics). You either have AGP or PEG (except for some very rare exceptions).

RTsa is right, a GeForce 6600GT with 256MB is probably the best choice with your budget.

Look closely at every offer you take into consideration, nVidia has launched so many kinds of GeForce 6x00-cards lately it's not easy to find the right one. If you want to buy the right card, insist on a GeForce 6600GT with 256MB of video memory.

Itcomputer don't really had anything I'd recommend. Some froogling however let me stumble across this one:
http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=GC-AN66D256GT&af=50 - exactly the card recommended by RTsa and me for £122,14 plus shipping.

al1uk
11.11.2005, 11:54
These are my mobo specs: http://www.soltek.de/soltek/product/products_all.php?isbn_st=SL-86SPE%2FSL-86SPE-L

al1uk
11.11.2005, 12:47
Alright, there are still a couple of local stores i'm gonna check first. Near where i live, on weekends, shop owner from all over london come to a local sports hall with goodies at prices lower then what they'd usually sell them for. they are always cheaper then the shops, so im gonna check that first.

vatras90
11.11.2005, 13:23
I think it doesn't matter, how much Video-Ram on a 6600gt, because of it has got a 128-bit Interface. I think an Ati x800gto (256mb!!) will do it better than a 6600gt!

NetSoerfer
11.11.2005, 17:30
That one doesn't sound bad indeed. Hadn't thought of it.

Comparing the specs makes me favor the ATi card too:

nVidia GeForce 6600GT 256MB:
500MHz/500MHz (GPU/vRAM)
128bit Memory Interface
3 Vertex, 8 Pixel Pipelines

ATi Radeon X800GTO 256MB:
500MHz/500MHz (GPU/vRAM)
256bit Memory Interface
6 Vertex, 12 Pixel Pipelines

So the X800GTO's specs are way better than the 6600GT's. However, I didn't manage to find a single X800GTO 256MB AGP card on froogle.co.uk. You'll have to see whether you find one (maybe ask your local retailer if he can order you one).

Nikos
11.11.2005, 22:38
Note that the GeForce 6600GT supports Pixel Shader 3, while the Radeon X800GTO only supports PS 2.1. PS 3 can be twice as fast as PS 2.1.

In most cases though, the card with more pipelines wins. But I think the X800GTO is a tad more expensive than the 6600GT.

ManMountain
12.11.2005, 02:09
A little over budget, but you could pick up an ATI Radeon X800 XL 256MB (AGP) for Ј179.95 (Ј211.44 Including VAT at 17.5%).

vatras90
12.11.2005, 14:27
Note that the GeForce 6600GT supports Pixel Shader 3, while the Radeon X800GTO only supports PS 2.1. PS 3 can be twice as fast as PS 2.1.

In most cases though, the card with more pipelines wins. But I think the X800GTO is a tad more expensive than the 6600GT.

In fact, you don't really notice if it's SM3 or SM2.1+ (without Splinter Cell 3)

al1uk
12.11.2005, 15:04
What about this: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=98727. do you think I'll be able to overclock it using the standard fan??
Also I went to my local sports hall today where all those sellers come, most of them only had the Geforce 6600/GT, but the people who had the 6800, which is the one I was after, only had it in PCI Express format.:mad: :mad: :mad:
I didn't check any ATI ones, but the 6600 was around Ј100-Ј120

NetSoerfer
12.11.2005, 17:27
The X800SE is slower, has less pipelines... No success asking a retailer to order you an X800GTO?

Found one of those (here in germany) for 180€ (that's about £120)... That's pretty good...

al1uk
12.11.2005, 17:31
I finally made up mind, i went for this one: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/6600AGP_Series.html
Scroll to the one right at the bottom, product code: PVT43AUDF6

Nikos
12.11.2005, 23:14
I finally made up mind, i went for this one: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/6600AGP_Series.htmlA good choice for that price. But I think you're going to somewhat regret it later on, since this card has only 128MB of VRAM. Newer games really need 256MB VRAM (and there are cards with 512MB).

But right now, this is a fine choice. In 6 or 10 months though, the games that will be released will suffer major texture lag.

Nikos
12.11.2005, 23:47
In fact, you don't really notice if it's SM3 or SM2.1+ (without Splinter Cell 3)Does SC support PS 2.1? The original version supported only 1.1 and 3.0. A patch added 2.0 support. Was 2.1 actually supported? There might be a visual difference between 2.0 and 3.0, but AFAIK there's "only" a speed difference between 2.1 and 3.0. (Again: AFAIK :rolleyes:)

Dllfile
12.11.2005, 23:52
Does SC support PS 2.1? The original version supported only 1.1 and 3.0. A patch added 2.0 support. Was 2.1 actually supported? There might be a visual difference between 2.0 and 3.0, but AFAIK there's "only" a speed difference between 2.1 and 3.0. (Again: AFAIK :rolleyes:)
Nope, at least according to the readme,


Q: I can't select anything but "Shader Model 1.1" in advanced graphics settings because the option is grayed out.

A: The game supports only Shader Model 1.1 and 3.0, so if your graphics card doesn't support Shader Model 3.0 it's not possible to enable it. Consult your graphics card retailer for information about which Shader Model your graphics card supports.

Sizu
13.11.2005, 04:44
One solution.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102466

$200. 256 MB. ATI. You can't beat that bang for buck.

I bought it, and I LOVE it.

ManMountain
13.11.2005, 10:10
I bought an HIS Excalibur ATI Radeon X800 XL ICEQII TURBO 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI (AGP) for Ј211 from http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/X800_Series.html - best bang for buck I've come across. Performance is fantastic :)

al1uk
13.11.2005, 13:24
A good choice for that price. But I think you're going to somewhat regret it later on, since this card has only 128MB of VRAM. Newer games really need 256MB VRAM (and there are cards with 512MB).

The one i ordered is right at the bottem, :rolleyes: look for the product code: PVT43AUDF6.

kingdazy
13.11.2005, 20:26
This article is a bit old, but very enlightening...
hxxp://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/2004-27gpu2.html

Nikos
13.11.2005, 22:40
The one i ordered is right at the bottem, :rolleyes: look for the product code: PVT43AUDF6.Oops. Somehow I thought it was a 128MB card. :D

RJARRRPCGP
13.11.2005, 22:53
Currently I've got a Geforce XFX 5200, really rubbish, and using 3d mark, I get results of around 265, with overclocking. My budget is around Ј150 (UK sterling). Some of you might think that too low, but as a university student, I need to survive the outragous university fees.:rolleyes:
I've never been that interested in gaming, but with upcoming releases, I'm gonna need something new, and my Graphics card is the only outdated peice of hardware. Anyway, I ain't to clever with buying hardware, just look at my RAM post, and you'll understand.:wink: I need recommendations for cards that will survive a long time.

If that's 3D Mark 2005, I'm not majorly surprised. But if that's with 3D Mark 2001 SE, then you have a configuration problem!!! With 3D Mark 2001 SE, you shall get at least around the 7000s.

scaramonga
14.11.2005, 06:22
Nothing more than a 6600GT.........unless your interested in 3DMark scores!...........:rolleyes:

xeroxide
14.11.2005, 06:47
The X800GTO is a fantastic card, has a chance to unlock extra pipes (the X800GTO2 is 100% unlockable). Also, the raw horsepower makes up for the lack of ps3 since ps3 is more optimisation based rather than visual.

also this thing with 128 or 256mb, by the time 256mb cards become standard. the newer version of dx will come out rendering cards obsolete. so don't make that the bulk of your choice. rather go for more speed.

i have a 6800 vanilla myself and could not be happier. unlocked extra pipes its sweet, and i would get a X800GTO/2 if i dind't have this card already.... since it's not much of an upgrade for me.

al1uk
18.11.2005, 16:23
it finally arrived. It came bundled with the usual stuff, as well a FarCry DVD Edition. My games look wicked, although i've only tested it on a few. i've been laying off the forums since it been so busy and been enjoying my games.
I've been playing FarCry, but it gives me a MASSIVE headache after 5 mins play. I think thats 'cos the camera swerves round a lot, i also noticed it playing FEAR demo.
I don't like games that use the mouse to control, and neither does my head :-(
I've a aching headache whilst writing this.

P.S. do the forum mods. have gaurenteed access to the forum at busy times, or do they have to reload the page like the rest of us.

LFC4LIFE
18.11.2005, 19:50
Have to agree on the Sapphire ATI Radeon X800 GTOІ.

You won't find a better card for the money - Ј158 I paid for mine

It takes about 5 minutes to unlock the bios to unleash all 16 pipelines - wonderful...

From a standard X800 GT to a Fully Fledged X850XT, can't ask for more.

Mine is currently running at 16 pipelines, 543 (core) / 600 (memory) with the Arctic Cooling Rev.2 ATI 5. Very stable and very fast...

Benchmarked at 6109 in 3D Mark 2005

What a card...

For a full review and guide visit here

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/127

I can't recommend this card enough..

Nikos
18.11.2005, 21:06
I don't like games that use the mouse to control, and neither does my head :-(
I've a aching headache whilst writing this.Cards like this are here to speed up exactly this kind of game. FPS (and other first-person games) are the most demanding ones. If you don't like these games, I wonder why you bought this card in the first place. :D

(Half-kidding, of course.)

al1uk
18.11.2005, 21:27
I like games like Prince of Persia where the character is controlled by the keyboard, to much fast movement of the camera, and i get a headache

xeroxide
19.11.2005, 01:08
I like games like Prince of Persia where the character is controlled by the keyboard, to much fast movement of the camera, and i get a headache

some people get headaches from the "head bobbing" feature of some FPS games.

oh, and PoP is a great game ;)
clocked 1, 2, 3d, Sands of time and warrior within :D

gman123
08.12.2005, 01:55
hi im new to all this.

Im looking to buy a graphics card, and dont know what to go for AGP or PCI-E not dule GPU's

iv been looking at the X800 GTO PCI-E and other AGP cards and im stuck

i wanna play all the new games fear and call of duty 2

iv got Ј170 to spend and dont know what to get

some 1 please reconmend somthing, iv been looking for days and can make my mind up


cheers :confused:

al1uk
08.12.2005, 14:56
check what type of slot you have, usually you can just check the motherboard retail box, but if not have a look inside. you can't have both pci-e and agp slots.
AGP Slot: http://www.maximopc.org/imagenes/reviews/tidalwavereview/img.w32.agp.nb.sb.jpg

Pci-e: http://www.viaarena.com/images/articles/pcie%20002.jpg

i recently bought a 6600gt 256ram. its doin well for me.:)

DomiOh
09.12.2005, 17:50
I have 256 MB GeForce 6600 (without GT) and it does well for me. The GT version is faster than my. So it should do well for someone who has not enough money (like me, too) ;)

tigersan
30.12.2005, 22:52
I resently picked up a ati 9800xt 256mb agp8x gfx card. I thought this was suppose to be a badass card, but it has given me nothing but trouble. I think it must be defective because it has a horrible time with any type of directx9 light shading. I get all these white or red specs all over certain objects and paterns in games. Games like Doom 3 and Quake 4 run horrible, unless I'm on 640x400 resolution. F.E.A.R. has an option in the game to run all display drivers to revert to directx8 and after i set that up it runs about 200% better (30-35fps max) but still not up to par. And furthermore this is with a 1g of pc2700 ddr ram.

Just kinda pisses me off that I wasted $250 on that graphics card.

_skip
31.12.2005, 12:28
I use a 2-3 years old HIS 9600XT 256mo in my P4 3ghz, 2go ram. Most games run smooth with a 1024x768 resolution.

If it matters to you, I think that tv-outputs are far better on Ati cards than on nvidia ones. (It's an argument for me because I have connected the pc and the tv together so I can watch my divx movies on tv).

The only thing I regret with ati cards is that most game developpers seem to optimize their products for nvidia (you see nvidia logo : "the way it's meant to be played" on a lot of them)
can someone confirm this?

ExDeath
01.01.2006, 19:48
Yes, I can confirm what _skip said, i have a radeon 9600pro and it works fine with most games. the tv-out just fantastic.
we can see the nvidia logo in a lot of games.
but we can see the Ati logo in Half-Life 2 :D

HIBBLE
03.01.2006, 17:41
Ok need a good response ASAP

I have a dell Dimension 4600 with 1.5 gig of ram and 3Ghz+ processor.

but a shit GFX card lol, i have an FX5200.

Now as i can currently tell i need an AGP slot so im buying this:
Sapphire Technology Radeon X800XL 256MB AGP DVI VO

Is it decent? is there summit better? (i want ATI not NIVIDEA because i run HL2)


How can i be sure i have AGP? ATM my graphics card seems to be slotted into a REALLY short green slot and 3 more slots under it of which 1 is used by what im guessing is my sound card

pumpkinsoftruth
03.01.2006, 21:32
Ok need a good response ASAP

I have a dell Dimension 4600 with 1.5 gig of ram and 3Ghz+ processor.

but a shit GFX card lol, i have an FX5200.

Now as i can currently tell i need an AGP slot so im buying this:
Sapphire Technology Radeon X800XL 256MB AGP DVI VO

Is it decent? is there summit better? (i want ATI not NIVIDEA because i run HL2)


How can i be sure i have AGP? ATM my graphics card seems to be slotted into a REALLY short green slot and 3 more slots under it of which 1 is used by what im guessing is my sound card

I believe you have agp 4x.
You don't need ATI to run HL2 well...that's just marketing
I do love ATI though, I am running an X800 pro and it runs everything perfect as long as you have enough ram and processing power with it, which you seem to have. So thats a pretty good choice but I would probably get the X850 if I was currently buying a card. Don't think about the X1800 or anything else above the X850 unless you just have a crapload of money.

_skip
04.01.2006, 08:12
A french hardware site did great job comparing all the affordable GPU on the market by measuring the FPS rate in different games.

Here are the averages :
http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/14/IMG0014748.gif

X800XL is an excellent choice but it's PCI-EXpress, not AGP.

LooDos
04.01.2006, 18:35
where are the newer GPUs in this comparison?
nVIDIA GeForce 7xxx???
ATI Radeon X1xxx???
seems to be qiute outdated...

DomiOh
04.01.2006, 18:49
I like my GeForce 6600 with 256 MB RAM AGP.
It's now a low end card like GF 6200 or GF FX 5200 ... it's in the middle. I can play many games now with highest quality settings.

_skip
04.01.2006, 21:13
where are the newer GPUs in this comparison?
nVIDIA GeForce 7xxx???
ATI Radeon X1xxx???
seems to be qiute outdated...

Not that it is old, it only compares medium-level GPUs, with price ranging between 100 and 230 euros in stores.

LooDos
05.01.2006, 12:49
@skip: and then what about the ATI Radeon X1600???

nicksharp
06.01.2006, 15:57
I suggest you to get a ATI radeon x800xl, AGP version, and for two-three years you will be ok. This video card is more powerful than NVIDIA counterparts, and it's cheap too. I think on E-Bay with a bit of luck you could get a fairy price.

Jito463
09.01.2006, 13:26
I just ordered in a new PCIe video card and mobo from Newegg last Tuesday (three-day shipping and it shows up 6 days later!). Upgrading from a 6600GT AGP to a 6800GS PCIe. Not a huge jump, but at least now I'm on PCIe for future upgrades. And as pumpkinsoftruth said, you don't need an Ati to play HL2. I run HL2 at 1280x1024 with my nVidia card with no problems whatsoever (well, until this last update anyway, but that's unrelated to my video card).

LooDos
15.01.2006, 16:04
I just ordered in a new PCIe video card and mobo from Newegg last Tuesday (three-day shipping and it shows up 6 days later!). Upgrading from a 6600GT AGP to a 6800GS PCIe. Not a huge jump, but at least now I'm on PCIe for future upgrades.
indeed this isnt a huge jump. its kinda waste of money imho...

And as pumpkinsoftruth said, you don't need an Ati to play HL2. I run HL2 at 1280x1024 with my nVidia card with no problems whatsoever (well, until this last update anyway, but that's unrelated to my video card).
nVIDIA has only had promblems in HL2 with GeForce FX 5xxx cards.;)

Jito463
25.01.2006, 02:46
That's not entirely true. In x64, there was a problem in the "Our Benefactors" level that causes a CTD whenever you use the physics gun to throw one of the plasma balls at an enemy. There was actually one other way to cause the CTD, but I can't recall it at this time. I don't know if it was fixed yet either, or not. Btw, the upgrade from the 6600GT AGP (which was OC'd from 500/900 to 589/1100) to the 6800GS PCIe netted me about a 40% increase. At stock speeds on the 6600GT, it's almost a 60% increase in speed. Not a waste of money from my perspective. :)

Now I just need to move my Zalman VF700-Cu to my 6800GS and start overclocking (well, overclocking more as it's factory overclocked already to 485/1100). Once I do that, then the difference should increase even more.

Valecaruacaruccio
25.01.2006, 12:41
I think that the best solution to join last games and not get our budget crying is buying an ATI 9800 pro...(256 mb)AGP... i've that and i've bought it a year ago... it works perfectly with new games like prince of perisa t2t... half life 2, quake 4 and fear.... the price at the time was about 150 euros.... try to compare my hardware with yours.....
CPU-athlon xp 3000+
RAM-1024 mb kingston
moth. b.-asus a7n8x
video card-ATI Radeon 9800 pro 256 mb agp....
keep in mind that if u want to buy new hardware the latest cards are very expensive.... get a look to the older version that costs less....:)
WAILERS 4ever!!!!!!

Jito463
26.01.2006, 03:57
The thing that I'm not thrilled about with most of these 256MB cards is that they use DDR RAM instead of the faster GDDR3 RAM. I won't buy a video card anymore unless it has GDDR3 RAM on it. The speed difference is enough that it's always worth the slightly extra premium required. 128MB of GDDR3 is equal to - or faster than - 256MB of DDR. And the 256MB of GDDR3 on my new card is even faster still. On top of that, my card with the GDDR3 cost about the same as what you paid for your 9800 Pro, so it's not a bank-breaker either.

Ptolomeus3
28.01.2006, 12:14
Iґm purchasing now a NVidia GeForce 7800 GT (Retail) PCIe x16, 20 pxiel pipelines and SLi. It has 445/1070 MHz, 256 MN / GDDR3 for 300 . A bit more expensive but should be good for the next couple of years.

LooDos
28.01.2006, 16:47
the GForce 7800Gt is a very good choice!
PS: do u buy 2 of them, coz u wrote SLi?!

confused_daddy
29.01.2006, 15:20
I currently have a standard system: 2.8 celeron with 512 ram and no video card. I don't do much that requires good graphics performance( i play low requirement web based games) but my son recently received a game for christmas that wont run on the system. It requires support for pixel shading v 1.1. I basically only want to buy what i'll need so he can play this game without breaking the bank. Of course i understand that sometimes its better to spend a few bucks more than the bare minimum for better performance. If anyone can reccomend a good card that will support the pixel shading and give decent performance without the bleeding edge pricetag I would be very appreciative. Thanks in advance.

LooDos
30.01.2006, 13:00
i'd reccomend u to buy a ATi Radeon 9600Pro or the 9800er...
they are quite cheao and have a good enough performance for older games... (but also for newer ones if u dont play with max details)...

Ptolomeus3
30.01.2006, 22:30
the GForce 7800Gt is a very good choice!
PS: do u buy 2 of them, coz u wrote SLi?!

No no, I buy only one of them.

LooDos
31.01.2006, 17:21
i just want u to know that every gf since 6xxx series support SLi.
except the low budget versions (like 6200tc).
so maybe it depends on your mobo...

ange1
01.02.2006, 09:20
yeah i'd just buy one, and then when it drops buy the other lol

kragnin
08.03.2006, 13:25
Thanks in advance for all helpful replies!

I need to upgrade my card for games, primarily. I'm trying to fit my current system and stay within a budget while maximizing performance (isn't everyone?).

Here's my current specs:

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3.1 GHz
Graphics: nVIDIA GeForce FX 5200, 128MB (AGP, I believe)
RAM: 1024 DDR-SDRAM

Email me directly and post replies here. I've always used nVIDIA products, but am open to other recommendations.

Thanks!
Matt

Underheaven
08.03.2006, 13:35
kragnin, I moved your post here.

Chiefnuts
08.03.2006, 18:05
either the X1600Pro (AGP) or the Nvidia eq. would be ample, and a nice cheap upgrade for a 5200. the x1600 comes in 256 and in 512 gddr2 configs, for between 129 and 159. Make sure it says AGP!

Nivida 6800GS is a good card, and a little more expensive. But it's got a bigger memory bus (256 to 128) and is faster..

vatras90
08.03.2006, 18:11
Thanks in advance for all helpful replies!

I need to upgrade my card for games, primarily. I'm trying to fit my current system and stay within a budget while maximizing performance (isn't everyone?).

Here's my current specs:

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 3.1 GHz
Graphics: nVIDIA GeForce FX 5200, 128MB (AGP, I believe)
RAM: 1024 DDR-SDRAM

Email me directly and post replies here. I've always used nVIDIA products, but am open to other recommendations.

Thanks!
Matt
If you want something real powerful, order a 6800 ultra or gt.
An ultra is available in german shops for 200€.
A nvidia 5200 is to 90% agp, the other 10% is pci non-express, but this is a really old standard for graphic-cards.

LooDos
11.03.2006, 09:30
one of the best gfx cards available is the GeForce 7800GT. and it only costs 250-300€...
BUY IT ;)

LooDos
11.03.2006, 21:57
i would buy a GF 6800GS or the GF7800GS. should match perfect with your sys...

payne99
24.03.2006, 05:27
hello, Im in need of some help and decided to try this forum :D so my problem is this: I want to use this computer up here to play games like Lineage2 which doesnt ask that much for recomended req. my comp stat atm are:
~Intel Celeron 1000MHz (10x100)
~System Memory 375Mb of Ram (Sdram)
~Graphics Card: Radeon 7500 Family :confused: (micros.)64mb
~and my internet connection is fine, the asks:

-P3/800MHz or better
-Ram:256MB
-Graphics:GeForce2/ or better 3d Graphics Card
-Connection 56k (Have Cable atm)

Being a school student and money bein low as most students are hehe Id like any help on low but good items. I believe that all I need is a better graphics card. I have anywere from 125Cdn to 190CDN <--Dont wana hit this area but "IF" I have to than i guess >.> Thanks for any future help.

Underheaven
24.03.2006, 18:17
payne99, what game are you thinking about getting?

LooDos
24.03.2006, 19:12
as he already said: Lineage 2.

isepiq
30.03.2006, 00:07
Try 9micro1 for good prices on your graphics cards. My neighbor got an ATI 9600XT with 256mb for under $100 US, & I got a 9800XT 256mb with 8 pipelines & a 256 bit memory interface for $170 US. Their web site & service is excellent. Also, since you are on a tight budget, have you tried Pricegrabber & Amazon? Pricegrabber is how I found 9micro1. Also, when you decide on the card you want, just type it into the search bar on Pricegrabber & you will see some prices that I have yet to see any store beat, even with shipping!!!

yacbos
16.06.2006, 06:33
well you also want to reconsider this since the ati x8xx series dont have PS3 (pixel shader 3)
the atis with PS3 support are the x1xxx series which are expensive and their low end are very very low on performace
so buyin a 6600gt with 128 or 256 would be the best solutin for the money problem :) and dont forget that he needs a card to survive some time
i got the 128 mb version and later on i baught some extra pc ram and now most of games are workin fine
well on a 17" monitor for a resolution of 1024x768 it isnt bad tho and i can open most of games at high resolution

mysterio619
19.06.2006, 14:12
The 7300GT DDR3 256mb rocks
it even beats the 6600GT
and for that matter even the 7300GT DDR2 version beats the 6600GT DDR2

Just forget abt everything and get a Inno 3D 7300GT DDR3 256mb

RomanK
24.09.2006, 09:49
Nothing more than a 6600GT.........unless your interested in 3DMark scores!...........:rolleyes:

Same here , bought 6800GT about a half year ago (when a prices dropped) and still did not saw any game that had problems , at least @1200x1024 - my LCD resolution and with 4xFFAA.

Black-
30.09.2006, 02:54
wait for november, nvidia will release some infos about the new G80 chipset. expect it to be released this year, i bet on christmas.

this should make price drops sure for old chipset gfx. and of course, they support DX10 which is needed for vista game improvments..;D
some bigger PC revolution incoming, not only for GFX cards - wait a bit before buying anything.

6600GT works fine, even with newest games. just set textures on medium thats it.