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RJARRRPCGP
14.11.2005, 06:09
If there isn't going to be, then before it expires, try to make sure that I have successful image files made.

Now, it's starting to feel like the 1990s or early 2000s again, when almost all good software was commercial. :mad:

Ptolomeus3
14.11.2005, 21:17
You will find no freeware doing the job of alcohol. Too much knowhow and work done there. This costs a lot of energy and time (= money).
And when you look at the price a licence of Alcohol costs, thatґs really not soo expensive for what you get !

RJARRRPCGP
15.11.2005, 01:37
You will find no freeware doing the job of alcohol. Too much knowhow and work done there. This costs a lot of energy and time (= money).
And when you look at the price a licence of Alcohol costs, thatґs really not soo expensive for what you get !

OK, but even when I'm 25 years old, It's likely that I won't be allowed to purchase it. :mad: Because of the complications of setting up an account to purchase online and they might not like my location. :mad:

Kitna
15.11.2005, 03:23
If there isn't going to be, then before it expires, try to make sure that I have successful image files made.

Now, it's starting to feel like the 1990s or early 2000s again, when almost all good software was commercial. :mad:
Next time you go to work, tell your boss you don't want to get paid anymore.
Explain that you hate feeling so commercial.
I'm sure they won't mind.

RJARRRPCGP
15.11.2005, 21:13
Next time you go to work, tell your boss you don't want to get paid anymore.
Explain that you hate feeling so commercial.
I'm sure they won't mind.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? That's rude!!! :mad:

Nikos
16.11.2005, 03:31
Good software can be free. There are lots of examples of software that is much, much more complicated than Alcohol, but is still free. (GCC, KDE, Linux, Gimp, you name it. No comparison to Alcohol in terms of complexity.)

The problem is, free software mostry requires volunteers. Proprietary software requires budget.

Kitna
17.11.2005, 00:05
Next time you go to work, tell your boss you don't want to get paid anymore.
Explain that you hate feeling so commercial.
I'm sure they won't mind.
You say that software should be free, which means you expect software developers to work for free.
Why is it rude for me to suggest that you also work for free?

Nikos
17.11.2005, 01:38
You say that software should be free, which means you expect software developers to work for free.
Why is it rude for me to suggest that you also work for free?For "free" as in "free beer" or "freedom"? :D

I don't mind working for free. Volunteer work helps the community. But I don't like working for free if the one who assigned me the work earns money from it. Working for free involves ALL PARTS working for free. Your boss doesn't work for free even if you do. Does he? No.

Kitna
17.11.2005, 02:21
For "free" as in "free beer" or "freedom"? :D

I don't mind working for free. Volunteer work helps the community. But I don't like working for free if the one who assigned me the work earns money from it. Working for free involves ALL PARTS working for free. Your boss doesn't work for free even if you do. Does he? No.
For ALL PARTS to be working for free, we would have to live in a world where food, rent etc.. was also free.

Nikos
17.11.2005, 03:18
For ALL PARTS to be working for free, we would have to live in a world where food, rent etc.. was also free.I don't see the connection with free software. I release my software as open source, and I'm not hungry... Well, last time I looked, I wasn't. :confused:

BoxOfSnoo
17.11.2005, 03:53
Hi I'll try and answer your question a little more, too.

You may have some limited success with ddump: http://www.geocities.com/ddumpfrontend/

It's quite old, but it makes a fair copy of some discs. Don't expect it to work with the latest and "greatest" copy protections though. If you really can't buy Alcohol, BlindWrite and/or the other one (I forget) remember they EACH have 30-day trial periods...

It looks like DT Pro will have an imaging option, so if you can only register one... :)

Kitna
17.11.2005, 03:54
I don't see the connection with free software. I release my software as open source, and I'm not hungry... Well, last time I looked, I wasn't. :confused:
And yet you say you can't afford to pay $15.95 for D-Tools?

Why do you think there is a difference between getting paid to develop software and getting paid to do any other job?

Nikos
17.11.2005, 19:42
And yet you say you can't afford to pay $15.95 for D-Tools?Huh? When did I say that? I plan to register DTools Pro. Just because I like and support open source doesn't mean I hate everything else (with the possible exception of Microsoft :D).


Why do you think there is a difference between getting paid to develop software and getting paid to do any other job?I don't think that. I'm wondering if it's actually me you're talking to. This is "Nikos" talking.

harrytasker
22.11.2005, 17:40
Huh? When did I say that? I plan to register DTools Pro. Just because I like and support open source doesn't mean I hate everything else (with the possible exception of Microsoft :D).

If u hate it don't use it, plenty of other choices (MAC, Linux).
MS might try to stuff things up your throat, but that doesn't me that u have to accept it, so stop whining about MS.
There is still freedom of choice, the problem is that most peopl don't use it enough....just my 2 cents

leezer3
22.11.2005, 19:24
More to the point, the difference between Alcohol & programs released for free is the function that they perform-
Alcohol is a specialised application, for creating 1:1 backups of CDs with copy protection. Due to the nature of free software, no copy protection is required, and therefore a peice of software such as Alcohol is much less of a priority than the development of somthing such as a spreadsheet or database program which will gain more users.

Cheers

-Leezer-

Nikos
23.11.2005, 06:46
If u hate it don't use it, plenty of other choices (MAC, Linux).
MS might try to stuff things up your throat, but that doesn't me that u have to accept it, so stop whining about MS.With all due respect, I can whine as I please.

I hate MS, I hate MS, I hate MS! There.

AmphetaMarinE
23.11.2005, 08:46
With all due respect, I can whine as I please.

I hate MS, I hate MS, I hate MS! There.

Hear Hear says the gnu user!!! :)

I too am not too fond of microsoft, primarily due to their sales tactics...
I do however, both use and like windows since v2002...
It is lightyears ahead of its predecessors...
Primarily I still use linux, but windows being windows, is necessary for my love of gaming.... however, until v2002 i only begrudgingly used it, but now I quite enjoy exploring my windows machine :)

Azreal_Reaper
24.11.2005, 00:03
Hi,
I've been reading about your opinions about OS's and having played with most of the major ones, I think it doesn't really come down to how "s**t" an O.S., from what I've seen, it's what you use it for. If you are finding that your OS is not applicable to your area of interest, then change the O.S.

Here's the difference between them:
Use Microsoft Windows XP+ if
- Full USB Compatibility (Really fast no driver connections)
- Better Wireless Support
- Simple Interfaces with consistency
- Good Multimedia Support
- Excellent for PC Games/High End Games
- Simplistic Security & Applications

Use Machintosh if:
- Advanced Multimedia
- The most simpliest way to explore a computer
- Simple designs and shortcuts to productivity
- Any Video & Sound buffs

Use Linux if:
- Advanced System customisation
- High Security
- Programming
- Servers/FTP/Web/File etc

I do a little bit of video rendering, but I also play a lot of games and do not do much programming. But I also am a slightly intuitive user, so I don't need the Mac. Since I play alot of games, I don't use Linux (even if it does have WINe).

Anyways, this is what I think. I use Windows the majority of the time but some people might be uncomfortable with paying for an operating system (cheap bastards). Also, I hate seperatists! You can be in any and all OS groups, none of this Windows is shit, or Linux is shit crap!. I'm fed up with people unjustifyingly bashing these powerful operating systems, they do what they do.

What do you think?
-The Reaper

Jito463
28.11.2005, 00:57
Very well put, Reaper. The main reason I've never bothered considering the switch to Linux is because I'm a gamer. Linux and games do not go well together (partly because of - not in spite of - WINe). I usually just let people who want to rant about a particular OS do so, and I'll just stand back and wait till they're done. Choice of OS depends entirely on what you use the computer for. Having said that, anyone who buys an Apple is a fruitcake. ;)

Nikos
28.11.2005, 01:14
Well, wrong.

http://www.transgaming.com/products_linux.php

EDIT:
Works even better than on Windows. LOL! I wish I could install this thing in Windows! Ha ha!

Underheaven
28.11.2005, 02:08
Wine, WineX, Cegega, Transgaming -- those programs/technologies only support some games (Transgaming says over 300 games).

One thing you can try is visiting this webpage
http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/search.mhtml

then check the box that says "Display only games officially supported by TransGaming" and click the second search button at the bottom of the screen and you'll only get 40 results.

p.s. nice comparison Azreal_Reaper

rebellion
28.11.2005, 08:48
With all due respect, I can whine as I please.

I hate MS, I hate MS, I hate MS! There.
I hav to agree with you......