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bohmr
21.02.2006, 19:23
Just installed the new version of D-Tools and was surprised to find malware packaged with it... Any comment?

DomiOh
21.02.2006, 21:39
Yes, you can deselect it in the installation options.

arisma
21.02.2006, 21:42
Without a good reason they donґt put it. Always can install without the adware

quirky9
21.02.2006, 23:29
does still register users can get an adware free installation file... like the first 4 version...?

Goenk
22.02.2006, 07:37
@quirky9 - no not at the moment, both customers and non-customers get the same installer. But this will change with the (hopefully) next release

Reef
22.02.2006, 14:25
Just installed the new version of D-Tools and was surprised to find malware packaged with it... Any comment?
Not DT's fault that you didn't take the time to read what you're installing. If you did read it you would have noticed that it only takes one extra mouseclick to NOT install the searchbar.

GreyWolf
25.02.2006, 00:31
Not DT's fault that you didn't take the time to read what you're installing. If you did read it you would have noticed that it only takes one extra mouseclick to NOT install the searchbar.


It's not their fault? Who put it in there? If it's so easy to not install it, don't put it in the distro.

AmphetaMarinE
25.02.2006, 01:49
He means...
If your going to be doing things like making and mounting images of copy protected discs, your obviously a reasonably savvy computer user.
And as any reasonably savvy computer user will tell you, blindly clicking the next button is a very unwise practice.
All it takes is a quick look over the setup billboards to see that there are checkboxes there, with one of them being an easily accessible opt-out for the spyware.

If you were to get a free gun somewhere, would you then proceed to aim it at your friends and pull the trigger before checking if it's loaded?
Good Day

ShakingSpirit
25.02.2006, 19:23
He means...
If your going to be doing things like making and mounting images of copy protected discs, your obviously a reasonably savvy computer user.
And as any reasonably savvy computer user will tell you, blindly clicking the next button is a very unwise practice.
All it takes is a quick look over the setup billboards to see that there are checkboxes there, with one of them being an easily accessible opt-out for the spyware.

If you were to get a free gun somewhere, would you then proceed to aim it at your friends and pull the trigger before checking if it's loaded?
Good Day

As everyone who owns a gun knows, you NEVER point it at anything you don't want to shoot, regardless of whether or not it's loaded; it's a matter of principle.

By your post, are you saying that people who arn't quite as computer savy, or arn't as intelligent, or have a disability, or simply prefer the 'Express install (recommended)' option that's turning up on installers nowadays, DESERVE to have the adware installed on their computer?
Is then this adware installation simply a trap for the ignorant?
To me, this seems simply immoral.

DomiOh
25.02.2006, 19:46
No one forces anyone to use DT. At the announcement page the developers mention, that there is adware added, that can be disabled in the installer.

Is it a problem to read?

Reef
25.02.2006, 21:16
Do you realise that the lifetime of my mouse has decreased by 1 millisecond because I had to uncheck the adware option? :D

arisma
25.02.2006, 23:41
Yes, only need 1 ms to uncheck, or 10 seconds for uninstall from Control Panel

AmphetaMarinE
26.02.2006, 03:18
As everyone who owns a gun knows, you NEVER point it at anything you don't want to shoot, regardless of whether or not it's loaded; it's a matter of principle.

By your post, are you saying that people who arn't quite as computer savy, or arn't as intelligent, or have a disability, or simply prefer the 'Express install (recommended)' option that's turning up on installers nowadays, DESERVE to have the adware installed on their computer?
Is then this adware installation simply a trap for the ignorant?
To me, this seems simply immoral.
ShakingSpirit... there is no express install option in the Daemon-Tools installer.
There are several billboards with some information and a next button.
Do you go ahead and install a new ECU in your car without first getting installation instruction?
I think not, unless of course you are a seasoned veteran at ECU installation.
As with d-tools.
The setup information is there in front of everyones face.
If you are too silly to read it, then immoral or not, i believe you deserve to have spyware installed.
And i'm sure these ppl who do the mad next, next, next, finish thing have much more spyware installed from their latest "crazy girls of hot cars desktop screensaver" (or whatever these strange things get called lately) setup....

joeboy
26.02.2006, 15:49
For all those that are whinging about the inclusion of ad-ware in the free release of D-Tools (as an installable option) - here are some statistics for you!

At this very moment in time as I post this there are 1829 visitors viewing this forum. Out of those 1829 visitors only 28 are members of this forum. Out of those 28 members only 9 of those have actually registered D-tools to help support it's developement.

So in conclusion there are 1820 of these visitors here on this site this very moment in time using D-Tools absolutely free of charge & only 9 who have tried to say thank you to the developers by supporting the software (i'm good with figures lol :D )

It has been posted here many times that it is quite easy to uncheck the ad-ware box when installing D-Tools, if you miss it then it is also very easy to un-install the ad-ware. Is that so hard to understand or do???

It is only right that if you use the software then try to SUPPORT it! ... if you don't want to supprt it then DON'T use it, nobody forces you to!!!

Have some respect for the hard work the D-Tools team do here, whinging & whining does nobody any good whatsoever. If you want to have some input in the DT developement then register the software & post your ideas in the customer forum, if they are good ideas then I'm sure the team will listen & take note of your suggestions.

If you are not prepared to do any of the above do you really think you have the right to demand or complain about anything ?

Yrma
02.03.2006, 03:22
Imo no one should be moaning. come on DT is free what more can anyone want :]

arisma
04.03.2006, 23:48
Only 0.4921% supporting DT, iґm sure that there are more people supporting, but although was 2%(5%), it is a low level.
We have to add those people that help in the forum, is another type of help.

Jito463
06.03.2006, 20:28
Well, those figures he used were just based off the number of people currently viewing the forums. It was not meant to be an all-inclusive overview of the level of support DTools receives from the community, just a set of statistics regarding a particular moment in time (e.g. the number of people viewing the forums versus the number of registered customers right then).