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  • #16
    Originally Posted by unhappyuser View Post
    I have not have had any problems but i read a lot of others have SERIOUS problems. I would not want to earn money knowing the software that earned me the money is causing troubles for some and has no use what so ever (except the money earning).
    You guys would earn more respect from me (and i think a lot of others) if you at least used a company with a better reputation like google. There is nothing wrong with earning money, but i think this is not the best way to proceed.
    We probabely won't agree, but i still wish you succes on the further development, whatever you decide . And its not because of personal interest, since i dont seem to be needing it because of lack of time .
    At one time WhenU had a very nasty reputation. They've worked extremely hard to turn that reputation around, and have done so. Before you ask, I don't have WhenU installed on my computer for two reasons. One, I'm a paying customer so I don't feel obligated to. And two, because I keep my system clean, and don't let just anything run in the background, even stuff I use all the time.

    However, having said that, the adware with DTools is the most unobnoxious you'll find. They clearly and distinctly make it known on the download page. You can easily choose not to install it during setup. And most importantly, it's easily uninstalled by simply using the Add/Remove Programs wizard in the Control Panel if you did install it (accidentally or otherwise). Something that can't be said about the vast majority of adware out there.

    The fact is, you're just ranting to get attention. You make no valid points, and the points you do attempt to make, you have no hard facts to back them up. There's a surefire way to make a point that sticks, and that's to make a point that's provable. Until then, you're just wasting bandwidth.

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    • #17
      Originally Posted by LocutusofBorg View Post
      We already earned millions by collecting our users private porn-
      archive, yes?
      Why don't I have access to this archive?

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      • #18
        @Jito: couldn't wrote it any better - short, plain and TRUE!

        @Reef: You only have normal customer-license. You need to
        sign in to "(X) -> Send me every week best-voted pron from DT-Backdoors"

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        • #19
          Originally Posted by LocutusofBorg View Post
          @Reef: You only have normal customer-license. You need to
          sign in to "(X) -> Send me every week best-voted pron from DT-Backdoors"
          You would make a fortune!

          ROFL

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          • #20
            Originally Posted by Jito463 View Post
            At one time WhenU had a very nasty reputation. They've worked extremely hard to turn that reputation around, and have done so. Before you ask, I don't have WhenU installed on my computer for two reasons. One, I'm a paying customer so I don't feel obligated to. And two, because I keep my system clean, and don't let just anything run in the background, even stuff I use all the time.

            However, having said that, the adware with DTools is the most unobnoxious you'll find. They clearly and distinctly make it known on the download page. You can easily choose not to install it during setup. And most importantly, it's easily uninstalled by simply using the Add/Remove Programs wizard in the Control Panel if you did install it (accidentally or otherwise). Something that can't be said about the vast majority of adware out there.

            The fact is, you're just ranting to get attention. You make no valid points, and the points you do attempt to make, you have no hard facts to back them up. There's a surefire way to make a point that sticks, and that's to make a point that's provable. Until then, you're just wasting bandwidth.
            Just telling something isn't true doensn't make an argument untrue.

            "The fact is, you're just ranting to get attention. You make no valid points, and the points you do attempt to make, you have no hard facts to back them up."

            Not only am i not ranting, but you can never prove what my intensions are so stating them as a fact is a lie or just plain stupid ( i would guess the second after reading your post). Then you argue i dont have hard fact while you are talking crap ?! Well, atleast you got a healthy sence of humor. Reread you own post, you are just stating the obvious and then you say my points are not vallid. I just dont see any logical reasoning in your post, not even a wrong one. Because you payed for it my points are wrong? Or is it because the addware is unobnoxious ?

            If i would use your kind of reasoning i would say, the sky is blue, and you are a fool. Just because the first thing is true, doesn't say anything about the validity of the second point. I have no problems with someone correcting my arguments, and that borg guy did really make a strong case TWICE. I also don't understand why borg thinks your post is so good since i don't see even a SINGLE intelligent remark. Yes some things are true, they are even obvious and therefore useless to post. But you kinda forgot to post WHY my points are invallid which is the whole point. I disagree with borg but atleast he could give a strong case WHY he thinks the adware is okay. You just say its okay and that has to make the rest sound like intelligent. Obvious you got the support of the users on this board, so i don't really expect anyone to give a neutral analysis, but maybe you should look at your own post first before you accuse me .

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            • #21
              I'm not going to get into this with you any further. I obviously did make points in my post (read the whole second paragraph), you just chose to ignore them. As you're the one making the claims, it's up to you to make your point. Since you didn't, I merely pointed out that you didn't make any valid points.

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              • #22
                well, as I close this thread here too, I will try to explain to you
                WHY his post IS absolutely correct. I will also say something
                about your post later:

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                At one time WhenU had a very nasty reputation.
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                FACT

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                They've worked extremely hard to turn that reputation around, and have done so.
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                FACT - nowadays it is known as adware and not as un-
                removable and sneaking-in spyware. M$ and some companys
                even plan to remove it from their riskware-databases according
                to my informations.

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                One, I'm a paying customer so I don't feel obligated to. And two, because I keep my system clean, and don't let just anything run in the background, even stuff I use all the time.
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                FACT (SCNR) - seriously. We leave that decision to everyone
                open, but especially customers have every right to not install
                the adware, they already supported us.

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                They clearly and distinctly make it known on the download page. You can easily choose not to install it during setup. And most importantly, it's easily uninstalled by simply using the Add/Remove Programs wizard in the Control Panel if you did install it (accidentally or otherwise).

                ----------
                FACT

                ----------
                The fact is, you're just ranting to get attention. You make no valid points, and the points you do attempt to make, you have no hard facts to back them up. There's a surefire way to make a point that sticks, and that's to make a point that's provable. Until then, you're just wasting bandwidth
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                FACT??? - Well, lets see! Lets keep an eye to your posting to
                determine by facts(!) what is valid and what not, ok?:

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                I have never seen a trojan horse asking if i wanted to install it and the same thing goes for viruses and worms
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                Then you have not seen alot of trojans or something similar. Alot of them are bundled to harmless programms which need
                interaction from user so they at least get started before they can dig into system. This is first untrue fact.

                Apart from that - a trojan is an application that, after installation, spy's the users system, serves as remote-controller and is - with usual ways - not uninstallable,
                at least not for the user whoms system is affected by this threat.

                A virus is a self-replicating computer-application, which mostly have some "payload", some destructive algorithm to
                destroy/harm affected system. It usually can't be deinstalled
                by any uninstaller.

                Do I have to explain to you the term "worm"? I spare me some
                time, use official documents to find the differences about
                Adware and worms.

                Now to the last point: Spyware/Adware. Is WhenU some kind
                of adware? Sure! Is it also some kind of spyware? No. And guess
                why? Well, I could again make alot of points here, but I
                give you two links that you should read for yourself and
                anyone else who is interested:

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhenU

                and this here:

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spyware

                Especially the WhenU-info is interesting, as it backs up OUR
                points and reveal most of your points that you made in that
                other thread as pure crap!

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                "The fact is, you're just ranting to get attention. You make no valid points, and the points you do attempt to make, you have no hard facts to back them up."
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                FACT? OK, above are the "obvious" points (Adware is uninstallable, it is not hided, user must confirm the installation
                of that adware and you ADMITTED(!) you did NOT read the:

                a) EULA
                b) ADWARE-Installer
                c) DOWNLOAD-NOTES

                (!!!!! Seriously, if I were you, at this stage I would create a new
                username and wouldnt use anymore the old account, simple
                because I would feeled ashamed if someone can PROVE! that
                the above is true (and it is! otherwise that adware would
                never be installed. Also you admitted that you did NOT read
                it - and you made really imho stupid excusements why you
                did not. Keep in mind: In that txt there could be next time
                also VERY important - even VITAL info of conflicts between DT and
                other software! And you? You did not read it! Gosh!)

                Ok, what did we learn now? Is the above said true? Yes!
                It is - you are just ranting, as you (partially even admitted!)
                have indeed no "valid points". And guess what? Thats what
                everyone calls a "ranting without VALID(!) points. It is not
                enough to just make a statement, a point. It has to be a
                VALID one.

                That's why I find jitos posting intelligent, he was able what I
                unfortunatly was not capable of: he reduced the whole
                discussion to 1-2 sentences. If only I had made it, how much
                time could be safed. Really, I feel a bit sorry that I wasted
                now 1 hour for this shit. To protect ourselfes from being
                abused by such fruitless discussions:

                I close this thread now, too. We made valid points - as you
                yourself admitted - and see no usefull sense in further
                discussion. If even the above said and the links to wikipedia
                does not clearly show you that WhenU is not a threat -
                sorry pal, but then nothing what we do or say will convince
                you. Nothing. Period.
                Last edited by Alco; 18.04.2007, 21:53. Reason: small grammar error

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