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  1. #21

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    These are the most important functions of DT Pro:
    -it'll be able to create images
    -it'll have a virtual IDE drive which should really beat starforce

    http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/t120...ouncement.html

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    Seems that the Problem cause by StarForce is not a problem
    SecuRom and SafeDisc both is a problem

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    Only Tages is a problem and newest versions of StarForce, rest is no problem.

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    DT Pro try's to cope all (important) protections.

    @professorX: I can see a problem when you f.e. think about
    to "try" a game, as here the "I like it"-factor is really what
    counts (beside stability etc etc).

    DT Pro is an application. Its main purpose is to serve you in the
    processes it was created for, imho(!) there's no such "I like
    it" reason. It should fit your needs. What DT Pro is capable
    of you will notice as soon as we released it, I'm sure someone
    will post about it here. Apart from that: A game is really unique
    (mostly) and therefore a "need" for a specific game is acceptable. (Although its of course not really "vital" for your life).

    What concerns applications, you can chose between many
    cd-emulator-tools, most also have a trial-version available.
    In that case, you can easily check if they fit your needs.
    If you come to conclusion to still stick to DT (Pro), you're
    welcome. Apart from this, we not finally and once and for
    all decided if there's later such thing like trial-version.
    My best suggestion here is to simple wait until we release
    trial-version and test then. Everything else may dissapoint
    you and that's not in your and our interest

  5. #25

    Lächeln Thoughts on a Trial Version

    Hi,

    After reading this thread, I just thought I would give me two cents on the benefits to a vendor of offer trial versions of software. In 1994 I founded a reseller that sold Visual Basic developer tools to software developers called VBxtras ; we later changed the name to Xtras.Net because of selling .NET developer tools to both VB and C# developers. I sold the company earlier this year and have no continued involvement but you can see it is at http://www.xtras.net.

    Anyway, first let me say I don't care if you do or do not have a trial version; makes no difference to me. However, we found that over 90% of developers expected a trial version of software before purchasing to ensure that the software fit there needs, and these were people who spent money with us, not the "tire-kickers" that wanted software for free. Further, the vendors whose products did not have a trial version did not sell very well at all, primarily because our customers wouldn't consider using their products if they couldn't try them out first.

    On the subject of "cracked" software, I spoke with several of my most successful vendors on that subject and they all told me that theri software was cracked but that it was okay with them. 1.) they couldn't stop it if they tried, 2.) if people used cracked software it meant they liked it and they were not using a competitor's software, 3.) many who first used the cracked software ended up later purchasing a license for many different reasons: to support a quality vendor, because they needed support, or whatever, and finally 4.) it is not about how many people are using the cracked software, it is about how many people pay for it and everyone I spoke with who had a significant amount of cracked software also had a large amount of sales as cracked software if free marketing in that it provides name recognition.

    I understand professional developers might be different than the customer base for Daemon Pro and hence my decade+ of experience might not be as relevent, but I thought you might at least appreciate an objective viewpoint on the benefits to a vendor of trial software.

    Respectfully,

    -Mike Schinkel

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    Quote Originally Posted by LocutusofBorg
    DT Pro try's to cope all (important) protections.

    @professorX: I can see a problem when you f.e. think about
    to "try" a game, as here the "I like it"-factor is really what
    counts (beside stability etc etc).

    DT Pro is an application. Its main purpose is to serve you in the
    processes it was created for, imho(!) there's no such "I like
    it" reason. It should fit your needs. What DT Pro is capable
    of you will notice as soon as we released it, I'm sure someone
    will post about it here. Apart from that: A game is really unique
    (mostly) and therefore a "need" for a specific game is acceptable. (Although its of course not really "vital" for your life).

    What concerns applications, you can chose between many
    cd-emulator-tools, most also have a trial-version available.
    In that case, you can easily check if they fit your needs.
    If you come to conclusion to still stick to DT (Pro), you're
    welcome. Apart from this, we not finally and once and for
    all decided if there's later such thing like trial-version.
    My best suggestion here is to simple wait until we release
    trial-version and test then. Everything else may dissapoint
    you and that's not in your and our interest
    Thanks for clearing that up; but I didn't understand what 'f.e.' stood for ?


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    f.e. = for example

    Technically "f.e." is wrong, since the official english abbreviation would be:
    e.g. = for example [from latin: 'exempli gratia']

  8. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSchinkel
    Hi,

    After reading this thread,----- (many text, see above)
    -Mike Schinkel
    thank you for this interesting point of view.

    Yes, it is indeed not comparable, as a developer-tool is really
    something you MUST try first.

    However, like already explained, it is not decided, we really
    think about some sort of trial. Personally, I have nothing
    against it, so it might become true and thats why I can
    only suggest to that ones who want test it first to WAIT!

    You can clearly see that we do not advice people to buy
    the cat in the back. I can fully understand professorX.
    But he can't buy a license for DT Pro atm anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elandril
    f.e. = for example

    Technically "f.e." is wrong, since the official english abbreviation would be:
    e.g. = for example [from latin: 'exempli gratia']
    I always used e.g. to mean example given.
    Just as i.e. meant - for my purposes - inferred example.

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    i.e. = that is [from Latin: 'id est']

    Many abbreviations in English do not stand for English words, but come from the Latin translation. It's kinda funny that the abbreviations totally dismiss the actual language and are still based on the base language that isn't even spoken actively any more (outside of classrooms ).

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