Why no trial version of Pro? I'd like to try forthcoming vIDE.

[professorx]

Title says it all.

Could someone also clarify what vIDE will bring to the Pro version that cannot already do (since it already "supports" starforce) e.g. avoid blacklisting issues.

tia

[ghost_zero]

I don't get what you are meaning exactly: Blacklisting has nothing to do with vIDE at all... vIDE just fits the purpose that some protections limited IDE-Drives only to start the game (at least if IDE-Drives were available) - but in any case most newer versions of the protection made this either optional for developers/publishers or discarded that feature at all...

Also: vIDE is as said in the news not yet included in DT Pro but will be soon...

However I guess there will be a trial but not yet - now there has been the release - not every release includes a trial at the beginning (and also some programs never get one)...
But even if there is a trial: I am not that sure that the trial would include vIDE too (at least not at the beginning - or maybe it would but I don't know)...

[professorx]

I don't get what you are meaning exactly: Blacklisting has nothing to do with vIDE at all... vIDE just fits the purpose that some protections limited IDE-Drives only to start the game (at least if IDE-Drives were available) - but in any case most newer versions of the protection made this either optional for developers/publishers or discarded that feature at all...
Also: vIDE is as said in the news not yet included in DT Pro but will be soon...
However I guess there will be a trial but not yet - now there has been the release - not every release includes a trial at the beginning (and also some programs never get one)...
But even if there is a trial: I am not that sure that the trial would include vIDE too (at least not at the beginning - or maybe it would but I don't know)...

This is only a repeat of what DT have already published!
The "blacklisting" I was referring to any scsi driver (not presence of DT), which is well known. Producing a new driver i.e. vIDE would/could provide a long-term solution that many have been patiently waiting for.

[ghost_zero]

Well: You will get it as already said... But either way that was discarded in most protections anyway...

This is only a repeat of what DT have already published!

Well, not really... I was also refering to the trial version and that even if it would currently not have it... What have you expected? That I tell you that even though there is no vIDE in full version included yet, you will see it tomorrow in trial version (this is meant ironic, of course)..? I also said that even if there will be a trial in t he near future and if vIDE got released, you might still not see vIDE included in the trial...

EDIT:
And vIDE was designed to go through the IDE-Only-Drives-Check... After all vIDE refers to virtual IDE Drive... so therefore you don't have a SCSI-Drive then listed anymore from DT but a IDE-Drive... Which of course should do the trick and which is also the reason why you can only have two such drives (IDE-Channel-Limitation)...

[professorx]

Jeez, getting a simple answer to a simple question is like getting blood out of a stone here these days. I only wanted to know why *currently*!

As for the vIDE explanation, I didn't ask why there is a 2 drive limitation on a single IDE (virtual or not) controller - it's obvious.
I can understand why anyone connected to DT is afraid to mention specific copy protections for fear of litigation (starforce, oops I mentioned it again) but this is ridiculous!

feel free to PM me for any egomaniacal retorts, rather than clogging up the thread with pointless last-word efforts

ps well done DT development...your persistence is an example to us all!

[ghost_zero]

First I am not in DT Pro development and I now don't get what you REALLY want to know... e.g.: What do you mean with "why"?
Maybe it is because I am no native English-Speaker or because your question was not that well verbalized or whatsoever...
And vIDE is not just because of StarForce because SecuROM (and also others) used IDE-Checks in some versions too (that was the reason why I didn't mention StarForce becuase vIDE is not limited to StarForce only)...

EDIT:
Do you wanted to ask why you would even need vIDE because DT Pro already supports StarForce, SecuROM, ..?
As said: It has nothing to do with blacklisting but there are versions of copy-protections which limited the start of the game to IDE-Drives only (if IDE-Drives were present), so therefore this wouldn't change, unless there is a vIDE... That's still an issue with DT Pro currently, only way is to remove your IDE-Drives (or you have only SATA-Drives e.g.) or for SecuROM it is enough to remove IDE-Channel in device manager...

[ghost_zero]

But if you mean why there is no trial version...
As far as I know there should at least come one... But I (I - so no official DT-Team statement - therefore also "know") don't know if vIDE will be included... Can be... or not... That I don't know but it won't be included yet, of course, because it is not even released in full version...
From what I know there even was one available for download - for a short time...
But I guess (I - not DT Team... only myself guesses here) there was something wrong and it was removed again - at least temporarily...

[professorx]

To answer my own question properly regarding a trial version of DT Pro : The guys have just released an adware trial version!
They must have read my mind or something, thanks a lot DT team

http://www.disc-soft.com/freetrial/dtpro

[LocutusofBorg]

we will not include anything more into DT Pro adware-trial.

The current version is "feature-frozen", it is by far enough to
let people check out if they like our software or not.

The rest is customer-only.

[chonky]

why i cannot register my free pro ver

it keep saying not been able to connect to the server.

i wonder if that is a way to give and take back