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Thread: Teac CD-W548E - StarForce 3.0-killer?

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    Default Teac CD-W548E - StarForce 3.0-killer?

    I read this on chip.de today:


    The games' copy protections killer: Teac CD-W548E

    This Teac is an outstanding copy protection killer - in combination with the 1:1-copy-tool Alcohol it copies SafeDisc 2.4/2.8 and SecuROM New (4.8). It even defeats StarForce 3.0 as the only burner so far in our test labs.

    StarForce 3.0, a copy protection from Russia, prevents harddisc-access and hence all virtualCD-tools like Daemon-Tools, CloneCD or Alcohol. A copy burned with the Teac however can be started from the same drive, sometimes needing several reading attempts. All other copy protection mechanisms yaddayaddayadda bleh...


    Maybe someone cares. And maybe it helps prevent confusion about "THE StarForce 3.0-killer"...


    sG
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    Chip writes a lot bullshit, even if it really worked with one game, itґs simply a bug in the protection for sure, ґcause the problem of creating a Starforce backup is physical structure of existing media, which can NOT be altered by any writer.
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    would have REALLY confused me if it hadn't been a hoax. :mrgreen:

    thanks for the info
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    Well, it is theoretically possible to create a writer able to make backups of Starforce, SecuROM or ProtectCD5, but this would need completely blank media and some new kind of image which includes physical structure in a writable form.
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    Yeah sure, but I didn't expect there'd already be such burner-technology and media that could do that.

    Apart from that they used Alcohol in their test which doesn't support an appropriate image-format yet... so yeah, it kinda couldn't be anything but a hoax...
    "I was inappropriately blunt, wasn't I? Sorry, I do that a lot."

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    Yeah sure, but I didn't expect there'd already be such burner-technology and media that could do that.
    Me too and as a matter of fact: thereґre really neither such writer technology (yet);
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    nor such blank media ... and I donґt think it will be developed.
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    @copytropper: when you say completely blank media, do you mean cdr's without the pre-included 'wobble'?

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    (...) do you mean cdr's without the pre-included 'wobble'?
    Exactly, otherwise it would be impossible to re-create physical structure of protected original.
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    Theoretically any CD could be duplicated even on usual CD-R with preexisting wobble if you could control dynamically the size of lands and pits (similar to what CRW-F1 does but on the fly). But this process should be adjusted individually for each CD-R/RW brand of course.
    If such drive appears then it could do anything in combination with advanced software.

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    The problem is, that an original/pressed cd can alter more than just size of pits and lands, the gap between the spiral line itself an also be altered all over the original cd, so cd-r media with pre-wobble will always be different from such originals - thatґs what I meant, donґt know how to measure such things though ...
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