A little worried about Daemon Tools V4 and Starforce......

[doobieboy]

sry if i end up reiterating, but i dont think that theres anything SF can come up with that DT wont soon break. Its human nature and our world of capitalism let the good times roll! without compition, we'd still be in DT1 and SF would be out of business cuz no one would care. We need them so we can make DT better and they need us because without us, they wouldnt have jobs. Afterall, were the ones who benifit from all this right?

[crazy-daddy]

doobieboy: NO! We are absolutely not the ones who benefit from this. If they'd give up and let DT win we'd benefit way more, because then they'd stop developing copyprotections which install spyware, malware etc. on your PC, preventing everyone except the ones who didn't buy the game from playing it etc.

But the facts are, that they will upgrade and I hope so will DT

greets to Team and keep on fixxing those bugs *can't wait for Version*

[Jito463]

The problem with StarForce is that they've forgotten the point of copy protection. It's not to prevent the major pirates from distributing illegal copies, that's simply not possible. It's there to prevent Joe Blow from making a copy to give to his friends/family, to keep the honest people honest in other words. StarForce goes way beyond what's necessary to achieve this goal imo.

I bought SC:CT and played it through once, but now that I'm on x64 I can't play it anymore because Ubisoft won't get off their lazy butts and release a patch (which only takes 20-30minutes - according to SF - using their authoring tool to add support for the x64 drivers). I even bought *another* copy from D2D because I hoped it would eliminate the need for SF and I could play, but no go. It still had SF copy protection, just activation instead of CD/DVD checks. I wish SF would just die already, but I don't see it going away soon. Fortunately they are reaching the limits of what can be done, so there is some light at the end of the tunnel. Let's just hope it doesn't turn out to be a freight train, lol.

[doobieboy]

well, i guess im way too new to copy protection evasion to really notice SF
ive used daemon tools to run and make copies of ff7, juiced (which because of securom i had to get the no cd patch), R:TW, Baldurs gate 2 soa and the expansion, among a few others. I truely hope one day we'll have a version so we can back up my 5 halflife 2 disc's ( :wink: hint hint) but until then i guess ill just have to have some cd sleeves



EDIT***
in responce to hoping SF would give up, as long as there is money to be made SF will never give up, and if there wasnt sf anymore the companies would either A do the protections themselves or B there would be a new company who woud do the same thing.

[Underheaven]

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Half-Life 2 is a special case because (if I may quote myself)

Copy protection checking is being logged as done or not done directly on your Steam account. You must allow Steam to decrypt the files from the install media before they will take the cd/dvd required flag off of your account.

and the conclusion in your case is that you've already gone through that process.