v3.47 vs 4.00

[DarkStar251]

I know it is always said that only general SCSI blacklists can overcome DT4, but even with my CD drive connected to a RAID controler (so windows sees it as a SCSI device) or my Physical drive disconnected entirely then SecuRom 7 still says 'disk emulator software detected', wheras the disk runs fine in my physical drive (which to windows is SCSI)

this leads me to think the blacklist is NOT just a catch all SCSI blacklist.... but thats just me.

Games run fine with the Anti-Securom Loader, but we were sold on DT4 ont he basis that it would remove the need for all these extra utilities

[Kinlaadare]

The problem with xp x64 is that DT 3.47 won't run... so if you're a x64 addict you'll need DT>=4.00

[arisma]

then?

How many advantages has DT4 over DT3.47?

Is better uses dt4 in wxp x64 and 3.47 with wxp x32?

I say for the "illegal access error..."

[NetSoerfer]

Shut down your computer, open the case and look at the back side of your CD/DVD drives. There you'll have two cables: A red-black-black-yellow one which is the power cable and a much broader cable which is the IDE (data) cable. You need to unplug one of them (try the power cable first as it is easier to remove, if that does not work, unplug the IDE cable), that way your computer does not find the drives anymore.

[Lillibrutala]

i never deaktivatet a physikal cd or dvd drive. can anybody tell me how to do this? i now you will call me a noob and exactly that i am.

[Druidwoo]

All Ok

I tried DT4 again and restarted a few times and now I can run B&W 2 perfectly just like dt3.47. So everything's fine now. Thanks for all the help people.

[MindFever]

Well, Need for speed : Most Wanted works fine with DT4 - wich is a surprise (no sarcasm...honestly ) ... But i heard that a few needed to run sd4hide.

Was mounted with the Alcohol 120% images (made with the newest version of AC120% ofcourse...)

[Kitna]

I've disabled all my real drives and unplugged them and it still doesn't work ....and I did already try that I've read alot about that cause I want to play that game

How did you create the image? (Which software/hardware/settings)

[lis8910]

Obviously some of you folks haven't read the release notes. DT4 doesn't have the IDE-jammer incorporated yet, so that's why it can't get around StarForce by itself. It should be coming soon. DT4 itself is not blacklisted, but it uses a virtual SCSI-drive, which almost all copy protection programs blacklist (the virtual drive itself, not DT4). DT4 beats the protections fine (you can play SF-protected games if you remove your other IDE devices). Do a little research first before you start complaining about a free product.

Arb

I've disabled all my real drives and unplugged them and it still doesn't work ....and I did already try that I've read alot about that cause I want to play that game

[Druidwoo]

But the thing I don't understand is why my mounted image of Black and White 2 which is safedisk 4.00 won't work with DT4. The image mounts fine but when I try to run the game I get the
message saying the program has performed an illegal operation.

However when I mount the exact image in dt 3.47, the game runs and plays fine. And I'm not using any safedisk 4 hider or any registry nonsense trick in the first place.

[tr1nity]

CIV4 works just fine with DT4. No need for anything else. Just need to have a good image made with Alcohol. It is very important that your mds file is having a good DPM to it.

If what you say is true then why doesn't it work for me and others? Again, works fine with DT3.47 using same method and an alcohol image.

[AnalCobra]

CIV4 works just fine with DT4. No need for anything else. Just need to have a good image made with Alcohol. It is very important that your mds file is having a good DPM to it.

Civ4 is SD 4.6 protected, no need for dpm. It all works with DT 4 if you deactivate your drives with sfn or in device manager and for SD 4 it works also Safedisk4hider. For SF protected games it's required to unplug/disconnect/power off your ide-drives (burner,dvd-rom).

[kukubau]

Civ4, Q4, Cod2 do not work with DT4, whereas they work fine with the exact same method using DT3.47.

CIV4 works just fine with DT4. No need for anything else. Just need to have a good image made with Alcohol. It is very important that your mds file is having a good DPM to it.

[tr1nity]

Civ4, Q4, Cod2 do not work with DT4, whereas they work fine with the exact same method using DT3.47.

[MikiMouse]

All blacklists have been fixed, you won't need anti-blacklisting tools for DTv4 anymore. Furthermore, DTv4 does support all copy protections, if you have no IDE drives, you can run every game from DTv4.

However, DTv4 is still SCSI based, and as such will be blocked by the latest copy protections - not because they blacklist DTv4, but because they blacklist every SCSI device if they find an optical IDE drive in the system. If you had an IDE DVD drive but wanted to run your game from a physical SCSI drive you'd still need to hide your IDE drive.

We never claimed anything else!

So considering this - only advantage (or disadvantage over v3.7) is that you need physically disable your IDE CD-ROM every time if you wanna play game with dt4 only
If not then you still have to use antiblax or sd4 hide.