SERIOUS PROBLEM. DVD and CD burning stopped working after installing V4

[Joeri]

allright, now the first thing we have to do is to determine if it is caused by the burner or by something else. To determine this, you need to put your burner into another computer (I assume that's no problem?) and try to burn a CD/DVD.

If the burning was not successful, you know your burner is the problem and not your system. If it was successful, we can go on to analyze the problem.

Note: If your burner is the problem, don't throw it away or break it or whatever, because it could be fixed with a flash.

[Pyr0]

i tried nero 7, and it worked for a couple of days, but then i started to get the same errors, it would crash while burning discs, leaving them unreadable
i'm now using nero 6 again, but i've put 2 batch files on my desktop, one to rename the dt4 sys files and another to restore the names of the files
when i want to burn a disk, i execute the batch file to rename the files, and reboot and nero sees my dvd burner
after burning, i run the other batch file, and reboot again to enable daemon tools 4

can anybody think of any other methods that might work?

[N0Shame]

I uninstalled DT4 x64
I renamed that sptd.sys and another sptd1013.sys file, but I can't burn still... I tried with Roxio v.8 and Nero v.7...
I run win x64.

what can I try next?

[Underheaven]

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You can try reinstalling your burning programs after removing DAEMON Tools and SPTD.

[Nil Einne]

Just to let you all know, I had no probs with DT4 and XP Pro x64 and Nero 7. However I installed Nero 7 after DT4.

BTW, please remember all that FIRST thing you should do when having burning problems is probably to make sure you remove any nasty malware (well I call it malware) such as Starforce drivers, Sony rootkits and generally any other such nasty malware copy protection vendors think they can add to your computer. These are well known to have problems with burning programs. Also, if you are trying loads of different burning program, be aware burning programs can conflict with each other. Personally, I would never install Roxio/EasyCD since from all I've heard it's an absolute POS which should not still exist. I would def not try it with Nero since it has historically had problems with Nero. Maybe Roxio have cleaned up since then but I wouldn't trust them.

The second thing when having problems with burning programs is to try reinstalling.

[daphaze]

Honestly my drive became progressively screwed during the time I had daemon tools installed.

I sent my drive away for repair and and just got it back today, hesitant to put it back in the computer,

DT4 may in fact fugg drives, this is why I found this forum!

too bad, cuz it's a good tool

[JoelEllison]

what program has had problems with nero?

[ChaosDingo]

D-tool 4. great.

After installing D-tool 4... Everything was working great until i tried to burn a ISO image file into a DVD-R using NERO...

i tried to burn 2 different ISO images btw,

burning process was ok. everything was done. 100% complete.

Until i actually go and read the disc in my player.. It couldnt work at all! (both) so i tried to read it with my computer:

First ISO image:
Pop it in my dvd rom drive. the disc could not be read. and when i tried to double click it. My computer stops responding.

2nd ISO image:
My computer reads the disc, and declare that its a blank.

thought it had something to do with the ISO image file itself. so i tried burning another ISO image which i had previously burned and working normally(before installing D-tool 4) into a blank DVD-R. And voila!

The same crap happens again.

I tried burning a DATA disc using a blank VCD. and basically my com can reads it. no problem. So its darn obvious that something happened to my DVD burner when i installed D-Tool 4

I tried reinstalling NERO. but to no avail.

And i read sum of the post previously and i thought i heard someone mentioning something about Starforce protection? yeah i had it once. but i already uninstall the game. So basically there shldn be a problem, rite? Im not using the 64x one btw.

Any help would be appreciated.

Pardon me for my poor english. It is not my native language.

[Faraway]

I don't mean to be rude, but I have seen upwards of 3 dozen people reporting an identical problem -- it doesn't pay to keep saying that Daemon, under certain circumstances, is not crippling Burners.

I RMA'd an LG GSA-H54K because it stopped reading CD's suddenly after I installed Daemon v4 x64. Even after extensive removal procedures, CD's never read properly again. I said to myself: "Daemon is just a driver -- it can't damage anything, the installation just coincided with an untimely hardware failure." So, I got a new LG Drive. Everything was working swell until I reinstalled Daemon. Read times plummeted, and now all of a sudden I get errors burning CD's. Something is happening. I am going to (painfully) reinstall my OS to see if that fixes the problem. I don't want to deal with another RMA...

And FYI, drivers do have the potential to damage hardware. read this one on starforce: http://www.glop.org/starforce/. I'm not a software developer, but I have enough experience with computers to know when something isn't quite right. Please developers, reexamine what is happening.

[Nil Einne]

I don't mean to be rude, but I have seen upwards of 3 dozen people reporting an identical problem -- it doesn't pay to keep saying that Daemon, under certain circumstances, is not crippling Burners.
I RMA'd an LG GSA-H54K because it stopped reading CD's suddenly after I installed Daemon v4 x64. Even after extensive removal procedures, CD's never read properly again. I said to myself: "Daemon is just a driver -- it can't damage anything, the installation just coincided with an untimely hardware failure." So, I got a new LG Drive. Everything was working swell until I reinstalled Daemon. Read times plummeted, and now all of a sudden I get errors burning CD's. Something is happening. I am going to (painfully) reinstall my OS to see if that fixes the problem. I don't want to deal with another RMA...
And FYI, drivers do have the potential to damage hardware. read this one on starforce: http://www.glop.org/starforce/. I'm not a software developer, but I have enough experience with computers to know when something isn't quite right. Please developers, reexamine what is happening.

How long was everything working fine? Have you actually tried this drive on a different computer to make sure your computer doesn't have problems like mobo problems, defective IDE/SATA cables, PSU issues etc?

BTW why did you install Daemon Tools? Did you want to play a game backup by any chance? If so, did the problems occur before or after you installed the game? If after, did you make sure it wasn't some crappy protection drivers the game installed?

P.S. Many of the early reports appear to relate to this problem http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/dt-6...ero-t7558.html which was fixed

[Nil Einne]

After installing D-tool 4... Everything was working great until i tried to burn a ISO image file into a DVD-R using NERO...
i tried to burn 2 different ISO images btw,
burning process was ok. everything was done. 100% complete.
Until i actually go and read the disc in my player.. It couldnt work at all! (both) so i tried to read it with my computer:
First ISO image:
Pop it in my dvd rom drive. the disc could not be read. and when i tried to double click it. My computer stops responding.
2nd ISO image:
My computer reads the disc, and declare that its a blank.
thought it had something to do with the ISO image file itself. so i tried burning another ISO image which i had previously burned and working normally(before installing D-tool 4) into a blank DVD-R. And voila!
The same crap happens again.
I tried burning a DATA disc using a blank VCD. and basically my com can reads it. no problem. So its darn obvious that something happened to my DVD burner when i installed D-Tool 4
I tried reinstalling NERO. but to no avail.
And i read sum of the post previously and i thought i heard someone mentioning something about Starforce protection? yeah i had it once. but i already uninstall the game. So basically there shldn be a problem, rite? Im not using the 64x one btw.
Any help would be appreciated.
Pardon me for my poor english. It is not my native language.

Wrong StarForce very often stays even when you uninstall the game. I suggest you do some searches for StarForce removal to find out how to properly remove it

[mastermind]

Disable sptd.sys, reboot and see if the reading and/or burning problem is still present. If the problem is still there, it seems there is some incompatibility between SPTD and other drivers installed on your system.

Personally I have had many weird problems with burning some time ago, but it had nothing to do with SPTD and Daemon Tools. The biggest problem (where the burning quality often was bad, burning processes just stopped and froze the computer, simulating a burning process actually burnt to disc, and more) was caused by an incompatibility between Nvidia's ATA drivers and my burner's firmware.

[Faraway]

You know what, I should have been more specific. It very well could be the SPTD, as people reported this problem commonly with Alcohol.

Anyways, I had used it to fire up Rainbow Six: Raven Shield -- which to my knowledge doesn't use starforce. I had had Rvs installed on my computer for several years without any previous problems, and just two months ago tried an RvS image with Daemon tools. That's when I started running into trouble. I'm away from my comp now, but I will try your remedies in a few days before reinstalling. I don't have another comp to test my drives on guys, but I can tell you for *certain*: they worked b4 daemon, and they don't after.

I notice that most people seem to have this problem under x64, like me. I am using the LG GSA-H55K, having uprgraded from LG H54N when it stopped working. My problem is not just burning though (NERO 7). My drive reads slower and the last one stopped reading CD's entirely even after removing Daemon + SPTD.

[Jito463]

I must be lucky, then. I've never encountered any problems under XP Pro x64 (since RC2) or Vista Ultimate x64 (or on XP Pro x86 prior to them) on two seperate machines, with either Alcohol, DTools or DTools Pro (using multiple versions of SPTD).