SR7.Stop

[HAANDI]

The main function of the test app is to find those strange Run-Time errors.
And the first enum test should show all device drivers ide, cdrom, raid. But the second enum test should show only Dtools/Alcohol drives, unfortunately I don't know a better way to detect Dtools 4 drives.
Thats why I have a question to DTools rogrammers:
Is the devicedriver "dtscsi" only a standardname (and it's easy to change it during the installation or later) or is the user not able to change it easyly?

[DarkG]

Mabe it can be done the other way around!
Is there a way to tell the tool which drivers to ignore?
I know what the drivers for my raid controller are, so i would be able to tell it to ignore those no matter what the name of the dtools drivers is!

[LocutusofBorg]

@Haandi: the drivername is FOR THE MOMENT ! a default one
and can't be changed. This will change in next version.

And in general I suggest you to at least contact us via email -
such discussions should not be revealed in a public board.

Or use the PM-function to write me!

[kukubau]

You're wrong Locutus !!! WRONG

@Haandi: the drivername is FOR THE MOMENT ! a default one
and can't be changed. This will change in next version.

And in general I suggest you to at least contact us via email -
such discussions should not be revealed in a public board.

Or use the PM-function to write me!

I am sorry to say this Locutus (if I think better, I am not), but I don't agree with you. Why should you ask someone that is developing a useful tool and desires to educate the "humble rest of us", to keep it quiet? Is not as if DT is going to "suffer". Maybe you think otherwise, but the man willingly and freely offered his knowledge, expertise and support. No unknown technical details that relate to DT were given that "software protection devs" don't know yet about. So your request seems out of place and a bit forced. I thought that this board was a place that helped others to expand their horizons, but it seems that I was wrong. This forum is a democratic society in some aspect, after all.

P.S. I hope this post won't get deleted, but if so, censorship seems to be law&order over here, and I rest my case.

[HAANDI]

OK, if this will be *fixed* in the next versions, I wont base the hide function on that.
But DarkG's idea to disable the known devices as very nice but the only one prob is-> I wanted to make a tool which is only one exe and does not need any backup or configuration files *the way I like it*. Here I will need a configuration file or sth, maybe i store the info in sme shared reg keys.
And atm we dont discuss any DTool's deep structures or sth, so I thought a pm or mail isnt necessary.

[DarkG]

I would rather have some ini file than another tool storing stuff in the registry.... or if you are willing to keep the tool updated for all time it would be possible instead to create an internal list of such drivers that the tool would check against when starting and ignore a driver if found in it.

@Kukubau: not that LoB needs defending, but he is right, when talking about dtools inner workings better to keep that off the board (in this case asking about the drivers name), after all we want to enjoy DT4 for as long as possible!

[LocutusofBorg]

@kukubau: Your assumptions are wrong. And it is NOT
a democratic board here. You are entitled to use it - and you
can even tell me I'm an asshole. This is your opinion and I
respect that (unlike most others boards).

But when it come to technical details, we try to get in contact
with other developers. So we can better coordinate the work
together, even HELP them with documentations etc etc.
That's why we DON'T want to discuss it HERE. We are also
searching for new talents for hiring. ATM, we searched for
good new guys to increase our forces.
All this is for sure not
part of YOUR interest - and even if it is so, I don't want it
to be discussed here. Apart from that, you can discuss here
nearly everything. Or if you think you can increase our forces,
write us an email to: jobs@daemon-tools.cc

Only in this specific thread here! you are right, as Haandis
app is not directly involved here with advanced technologies.
On the other hand, we get much work in the past because
of such tools that wrecked the installation - of course I see
the good will here from 3rd party developers. But if you check
the "Common Problems and Solutions" forum or the "Daemon
Tools Bug Report", you will find out soon, that we even
stopped to answer questions about such tools when the
development of such tools does not work with us together.
We can't "control" the development of such methods and
therefore we don't feel responsible for such applications.
This is our good right. In the past we even warned
people to use it. Maybe you're experienced enough to fix
your system afterwards. On the other hand there are
thousands! of request only in MY inbox that must people
explain how to reinstall DaemonTools. And call me stupid, but
I think this is not the way it meaned to be.

What concerns your "censorship": Run a board of such dimensions
on your own and we will discuss about censorship again.
But as you can see, for sure I don't fear your opinion.
And I'm sorry to say it, too (and yes, the more I think about
it, I don't think I'm sorry for it): What is it with some guys
that they always try to see some "evil", "forced" or something
else behind our intentions? That they try to initiate
some kind of strange defending? For WHOM the heck?
You write "... developing a useful tool and desires to educate..."

wtf? I guess you meaned US with the
above cite, right? Because if not, what are we in your eyes?
The "stupid guys" from DT Team? I can't count how many
tutorials I already wrote (amongst others in our team).

In the past, and I can assure you here, we tried often enough
to "educate" our users when it comes to protections, for sure
you can't blame us that we don't want a discussion about
technical details about DT. Its of course not your fault, but:

You know nothing about what's going on "behind the scenes".

Let me assure you that this board is visited by many people
that are not fans of our software. They try to even betray
members of our team, try to buy out our company or use
other social-engineering methods to get better insight here.
I think you get the point, or maybe not? However, it is in no way offensive
to you personally, I only want to make clear my opinions
about it. And of course remember you that this board is indeed
no democratic place. It is a message board and nothing else,
we don't discuss about things we do not want to discuss.

Apart from that, your post is not censored. And
it is STILL there. Think about it. It would only be nice
to get back some respect here - and not something like this:

"So your request seems out of place and a bit forced"
or "I thought that this board was a place that helped others to expand their horizons, but it seems that I was wrong"

and especially:
"I hope this post won't get deleted, but if so, censorship seems to be law&order over here, and I rest my case"

the last one is something that can be called more or less
suggestive - and I dislike it. And your post is still here.
Could that mean something? You don't have to like me,
you don't even have to like DT -> but what is discussed here
and what not is our decision. That doesn't mean that we
censor your opinion (only if you violate the board-rules).
So I would say, yes, this board is much more democratic then
most of the others I visit regularly.

[LocutusofBorg]

@darkG: You got it! Exactly that and to get in contact with
that developers was our intention, especially as "AntiBlacks"
caused much trouble in the past.

[kukubau]

Hello Locutus!

I can see and understand your anger. You're right, I don't know what is going on behind the scene and can not comprehend what you personally and your colleagues are dealing with, everyday. I can not have but good words and respect for your work and effort. First of all my post wasn't in any way a sign of dis-consideration toward you and DT or an undermining of your work. It was just a personal opinion regarding the words you posted. So keep the spirit up, and don't let those who try to harm DT and its team.

[LocutusofBorg]

I'm not angry - don't get me wrong. In no case I'm angry because
it is not your fault that you do not know what is it "behind
the secenes". And I think everyone knows that we're working
hard. Especially as our DT is the base for the 3rd-party authors,
I don't believe that someone respect them and not us it is
same as if someone respect f.e. a mod-developer but not the
team that made the game the mod runs on

It was only that I want to make myself clear. Most of the time
I'm polite and that seems to "invite" others here to do exactly
what I was going to ask to stop. People that tend to think they
can do here orders or decide how this forum should be leaded.
(And no - I do NOT mean you!! You did not disobey, but
your post could led some guys to think "yes. he's right, so let
the technical discussion start). As you mentioned the
"democratic" part, I feared that some people see exactly
that as an invitation to now start a loooong discussion
or even disobey that order. To make myself clear and
be not misunderstood, I used this clear (and I admit a
little bit too harsh) words. But it was necessary. I hope
you understand it and get it as what it was meaned.
A "stop it - we don't want it". Apart from that, I'm happy
to join with you every other discussion and I hope you like
your stay here!

PS: on german forum, we have the exact same discussion,
but some steps further with requests for hook-entries and
such stuff - and they get the more or less same answer.
So you see - it is a general guideline.

[DarkG]

Hi Haandi,

How is work on the new version going? Contacted the DT team for the possibility of making this a plugin?

To every one else, sorry, i tried to PM him but i apparently don't have the sufficient rights to do so!

[Underheaven]

...

Users must have 20 posts to send PMs

[DarkG]

I wasn't complaining, just saying how it was before someone suggested i should have put that in a PM.
And thanks for the info!
Regard this post as working towards my 20 posts milestone!

[vladimirbg]

hi

Hi.SR7.Stop work only on Alcohol 120%
Im a bulgarian and i don't kwon very good English
So sorri

[AnalCobra]

SR7Stop is working for DT 3.47-4.x.
If you use DT 3.47 you've to use SR7Stop 1.0 or 1.1.
Only SR7Stop 1.2 supports DT 4.
You can download them here:
www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_utils_8.shtml