software way to hide ide (for newest starforce)?

[Underheaven]

Re: Starforce 3.5 and 3.6

I think you are very lucky if you can do this on 3.5 and 3.6

[Dochilt]

Test it and comment with me if it work or not.

[MindFever]

Well ... i hope that someone makes an emulator,that makes all of the optical drives seem/identify as SCSI drives...

But anyway,its so cool: I just unpluged the power cables from my Plextor CD-rw and DVD-ROM ,then installed the copied game (mounted an alcohol image with DaemonTools v4) wich is SPLINTER CELL : CHAOS THEORY ,and it worked like a charm.Didnt use SFCURE or SFBlocker .Nice,eh?
I must say : for such a nice game,there should be a tough-ass protection. And i think,that blaming SF devs for not giving you the possibility of backing up your copies its verry obvious... you should then RETURN the CD/DVD and ask for a new one - when your DVD will brake/scratch/whatever/wear down No? Ahh,im just happy it worked for me,so im ranting you all Dont pay atention,if so ... ill be even more annoying

[Wolverin]

Always watch the StarForce protected game's SF version
number. StarForce 3 up to 3.4 was working nearly the all
PC configuration and running on WinXP SP1 sure the 90%s.
Use A-Ray 2.0.2.3 (latest) or anything else to identify the
protection number.
Also this SF versions has a good chance to make a Clone-
Image (possible not your 1:1 from your Original, but a good
Backup).
StarForce 3.5-3.6 very grindly, not possible to make a good
Backup, very luckyly if you have Plextor Premium or a good
LiteOn drive. Also the Mounted CloneImage about 3% chance
to run (if makes a good Image!!) on any PC configuration.
More than 90% chance to run if you OFF the POWER CHORD
(Power Supply chord ONLY) from the 1st CD/DVD-drive.
I tested my 16 Original StarForce protected game, and some
of them didn't works and makes strange things to be happen
after install (especially the DVD-versions). Some of the RAID
IDE's motherboard and nForce 2/3/4 chipset's MB was MORE
chance to run a good CloneImage at StarForce 3.5-3.6, also
good old CD/DVD READER ONLY-drives was works too
(e.g. X3 Reunion, World Racing 2 etc.). maybe the SF prot.
has "hole" at their protection scheme. So, at HIGH versions
of StarForce was MORE INSTABILITY and maybe the develo-
ping/coding has a TimeLimit and makes some mistakes at
finish as for their contracted games. I don't know this is my
fiction.. (sorry for my bad english)

[Dochilt]

Well... anyone test??.... no?... OK!... the font...:

http://www.nforce.nl/nfos/shownfoblack.php?nfoid=99247

[Wolverin]

Yes I get King Kong and I cannot make a good CloneImage.
I have the CD-version (I Ordered CD-version from StarForce
games, becouse the stability/workness, ALWAYS). The game
really good, but have a good protection. I will try next my new
Plextor or LiteOn drive, sure (hope) to make a good Clone.
But the SF 3.6 really low to chance a working backup.
Some of SF 3.5/3.6 works on my nForce 4 chipsets Mother-
board and some on RAID drive. But ALL WORKS on USB DVD
R/W drive!! It is not the cheapest...

[Dochilt]

It is your problem, but the software way(aka SFN) for hide the IDE in SF 3.5/3.6 work.

Try to download a valid mds or try to read manuals on how to create a perfect mds(mdspatch, Adv. mds editor, remove starforce drivers, no programs in memory, etc etc).

[Rascar]

No Dochilt, I tried to do that with PoP:T2T, but it still told me to insert the cd in another drive.

[ISO]

No Dochilt, I tried to do that with PoP:T2T, but it still told me to insert the cd in another drive.

U have to unplug the IDE CD DVD drive manually. Disabling the IDE not working for starforce newest protection.

[Wolverin]

Yes, my problem NOT that to create a good CloneImage,but
WORKS StarForce 3.5 or 3.6 WITHOUT I OFF POWER CHORD.
If I have a SecuROM 5/7 game I create Backup CloneImage
WITH Blindwrite. If the protection was Safedisc/Smarte or
StarForce I use Alcohol. If I do not have the right DPM info I
search/change the good BWA or MDS file. Becouse I have the
Original game this is not Illegal.
ALL OF my problem only the SF 3.5-3.6 games. I have many
StarForce protected games SF 3-3.6 an I TRIED ALL THE
Hider softs etc. but ANY of my SF 3.5-3.6 Backup WORKS
only if I OFF POWER SUPPLY...

[NetSoerfer]

ALL OF my problem only the SF 3.5-3.6 games. I have many StarForce protected games SF 3-3.6 an I TRIED ALL THE Hider softs etc. but ANY of my SF 3.5-3.6 Backup WORKS
only if I OFF POWER SUPPLY...

Yup, since v3.5 StarForce has a more advanced IDE check that finds optical IDE drives even if they are hidden. It'll only work if you unplug them.

(I do know some people with nForce 3/4 boards can play them without unplugging their drives. No need to discuss this again here, it obviously doesn't work for people asking for help.)

[ISO]

@WOLVERIN

Atm no other software hide the cd/dvd from starforce. u have to unplug the cd/dvd rom manually. starforce has a very low level chacking to find any IDE CD/DVD is connected or not. Disabling cd/dvd from bios no longer work. CZ if bios can ditect u r cd/dvd then any other sofware can. Stop searching for any IDE jammer, and w8 for daemon IDE jammer thats definetly work, trust me

[Wolverin]

I will bought an USB DVD R-W soon (~70-100 Euro) and after
that I have 95% chance to play all my (expensive) games
without the Original media.

[Coco]

This may be a stupid question, but I'm just wondering if someone could clear this up for me.

Can the latest starforce protected games be played at all off a backup copy of the CD from an actual CD? Or is it only possible as an iamge from the HD with the cdrom drives unplugged?

[Underheaven]

Alcohol 120% DPM / RMPS

You can play from CD. Using Alcohol 120% extract the DPM and burn with RMPS enabled.